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  • Comments Thread For: Carl Frampton-Leo Santa Cruz II: Pre-Fight Report Card

    The easiest road to a rematch, the one we probably expect more, is the sequel meant to resolve a controversy. One fighter or another loses a nail biter, or the public cries foul to an outrageous decision. The promoters print the tickets and we pay to see it again.
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  • #2
    So what changed between their last fight and now?

    After their last fight:

    Pre-Fight: Speed – Santa Cruz B+; Frampton B+/Post: B; B+
    Pre-Fight: Power – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B/Post: Same
    Pre-Fight: Defense – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B/Post: B; B+
    Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Santa Cruz A; Frampton B+/Post: A; A

    And now:

    Pre-Fight: Speed – Santa Cruz B+; Frampton B+
    Pre-Fight: Power – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B
    Pre-Fight: Defense – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B
    Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Santa Cruz A; Frampton A

    So it appears over the past 6 months Santa Cruz has got faster while Frampton has lost some defense??? Hmmm... so Frampton had a really poor camp becoming easier to hit and yet you're picking him to win against a faster Santa Cruz despite Frampton 'boxing as good a fight as he could' the first time around in a really tight battle?
    Last edited by ultravividscene; 01-28-2017, 02:12 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ultravividscene View Post
      So what changed between their last fight and now?

      After their last fight:

      Pre-Fight: Speed – Santa Cruz B+; Frampton B+/Post: B; B+
      Pre-Fight: Power – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B/Post: Same
      Pre-Fight: Defense – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B/Post: B; B+
      Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Santa Cruz A; Frampton B+/Post: A; A

      And now:

      Pre-Fight: Speed – Santa Cruz B+; Frampton B+
      Pre-Fight: Power – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B
      Pre-Fight: Defense – Santa Cruz B; Frampton B
      Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Santa Cruz A; Frampton A

      So it appears over the past 6 months Santa Cruz has got faster while Frampton has lost some defense??? Hmmm... so Frampton had a really poor camp becoming easier to hit and yet you're picking him to win against a faster Santa Cruz despite Frampton 'boxing as good a fight as he could' the first time around in a really tight battle?
      Post fight is typically just an impression of what we saw on a given night; how the grades for what we've seen to date was reflected in ring in just that fight. Doesn't always carry over to another fight though it could have here as a head to head reflection.

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      • #4
        Fair enough. Considering the Cruz's grades went up and Framptons down the pick should have been Cruz for the win. Conversely, in hindsight the grades were probably spot on

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