Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin: Jacobs is My Biggest Fight, He's Amazing

[satiev1]

First, I said we "just don't know", regarding Jacobs P4P status, because he only had one good win and is not even a full world champion. For sure I don't put him in top10, but I won't even discuss top20 or 30 because I don't know yet.
Second, I said P4P is subjective and meaningless.
Third, no, I didn't say MW was a strong division. Actually my point about it is that there are no weak divisions. Just more marketed and less marketed divisions. There's no statistic logic behind saying one division can be weak. All divisions are made of thousands of boxers around the world. Some have less some have more marketing, that's it.

People that **** on mw just don't like golovkin and want him to lose. That's the fact. There is nothing that I've seen that shows smw is a better division or 154 is a better division. 160 has canelo, golovkin, jacobs, saunders, dervechenyko, khyrtov and others. People that say 160 is trash don't put up a good argument. Their argument is it's trash because golovkin knocks everyone one out. LOL

[_Maxi]

Ok so now you're using resume as the determining factor for p4p. Quillin is as good as anybody on GGG's resume. What wins did GGG have to make him top 5 p4p? Or are u giving him a top 5 spot based on skills not resume?

No, I'm not using resume alone, read that I also wrote "he's not even a full world champion". GGG is a full world champion since like 5 years and has won other belts, and has also made other important people vacate just to avoid a fight.
We also have the opinion of those guys who refused to fight him in the past, saying he's the best MW. Sergio Martinez, BJS, even Jacobs, saying GGG is the best of his generation.

So, I'm considering all those facts, besides resume. Jacobs only has one good victory and an interim belt he recently won.

Come on, keep it going, I keep showing you're a fool.

[boxingitis]

People who say 160 is trash. Canelo and Charlo are more than Welcome to join the division instead of starving themselves. If the division was so weak and GGG resume was so weak what is the hold up to move up. Kell Brook, Jacobs, Lemiux were able to fight GGG on PPV so why cant Charlo and Canelo do it. The money is there, Canelo vs GGG is biggest fight in boxing. 154 is stacked of the champions not fighting each other. 147 is stacked by champions not fighting each other, finally we get Garcia vs Thurman. So the divisions that are stacked are the one without unified champions, since GGG has most of the belts it sucks 160 sucks.

126 is stacked Russel WBC, Frampton WBA & IBF, Valdez WBO, Mares Regular WBA.

[Mammoth]

Two classy guys with a lot of ability to knock people out cold. Stop the hate. We have a good match up on the way.

I agree Charlo should face Golovkin soon. Canelo, Darevyencheko and Saunders as well.

[Mexican_Puppet]

I can't understand the hate on GGG in this page.

He is a great champion, and very humble guy.

That's why mexicans fans supporting him in this sport.

Just compare what GGG says being a top-5 pound for pound and what was saying the s.h.i.t Cuellar vs Abner Mares.

[Mexican_Puppet]

People who say 160 is trash. Canelo and Charlo are more than Welcome to join the division instead of starving themselves. If the division was so weak and GGG resume was so weak what is the hold up to move up. Kell Brook, Jacobs, Lemiux were able to fight GGG on PPV so why cant Charlo and Canelo do it. The money is there, Canelo vs GGG is biggest fight in boxing. 154 is stacked of the champions not fighting each other. 147 is stacked by champions not fighting each other, finally we get Garcia vs Thurman. So the divisions that are stacked are the one without unified champions, since GGG has most of the belts it sucks 160 sucks.

126 is stacked Russel WBC, Frampton WBA & IBF, Valdez WBO, Mares Regular WBA.

In the 130 pounds there is a lot of movement with the champs and top fighters: Loma vs Salido , Salido vs Vargas, Miura vs Vargas, Uchiyama vs Corrales X2, next Vargas vs Berchelt, Loma vs Salido II, Pedraza vs Davis.

[cork]

So the #2 MW is elite but not in the top 15 P4P and you think he's better than Canelo. But the MW division is a good division?



Just to be clear. The #2 MW isn't top 20 p4p. Didn't you say MW was a strong division?

Just for argument sake people tend to think 147 is a strong division but if Pac stayed retired I wouldn't put any of the welterweight in my top 20. They're just not that impressive skill wise. Maybe fringe 20th I can't put them top 15 for sure.

Ward,kov,Loma,ggg,Gonzalez,Crawford,Pac,canelo,Fra mpton,rigo,jermall,Andrade,mikey,gamboa,Lara. Not in any specific order but that's like my top 15 fighters atm. People are gonna complain about a couple of them like gamboa and money and Andrade about being inactive or whatever but I'm just judging them by their talent.

But he did say it's meaningless because it's all subjective and I agree with him. P4p list are just meant for fun and not be taken so seriously.

[boxingitis]

In the 130 pounds there is a lot of movement with the champs and top fighters: Loma vs Salido , Salido vs Vargas, Miura vs Vargas, Uchiyama vs Corrales X2, next Vargas vs Berchelt, Loma vs Salido II, Pedraza vs Davis.

Many Champions so its cosiderd stacked. Its great that they are making good fights. Hope for unifications soon.

[OnePunch]

Funny how this fight got made the week after Charlo just KO'd a blue chip prospect in savage fashion and announced his move to 160. Still, Golovkin finally took a fight with Danny Jacobs. Charlo scared him into it, but its here now. Lara and Charlo are hunting for Golovkin. Jacobs is first of the Haymon guys up to the plate. No excuses. Golovkin has plenty of hungry fighters to face with the Haymon stable now available.

the ******ation level in this thread just hit Defcon 1

[Mexican_Puppet]

Just for argument sake people tend to think 147 is a strong division but if Pac stayed retired I wouldn't put any of the welterweight in my top 20. They're just not that impressive skill wise. Maybe fringe 20th I can't put them top 15 for sure.

Ward,kov,Loma,ggg,Gonzalez,Crawford,Pac,canelo,Fra mpton,rigo,jermall,Andrade,mikey,gamboa,Lara. Not in any specific order but that's like my top 15 fighters atm. People are gonna complain about a couple of them like gamboa and money and Andrade about being inactive or whatever but I'm just judging them by their talent.

But he did say it's meaningless because it's all subjective and I agree with him. P4p list are just meant for fun and not be taken so seriously.

Andrade and Frampton are not better than Estrada or Cuadras. No way...