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  • aboutfkntime
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    #131
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    This is what I don't get. Loeffler is on record this year saying the fight will be bigger than Lemieux/GGG and do better financially than GGG/Lemieux. But Loeffler wants to offer Jacobs only 200k more than Lemieux.

    it is absurd to suggest that Team Bullshht have done everything they can to make that fight happen

    they are a bunch of asshat's

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    • kafkod
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      #132
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      As to paragraph 1, GGG v Jacobs is the best fight GGG can make at MW right now, not GGG v another bum.

      The $2 mil is $1 mil less than K2 willingly offered BJS. Not saying BJS is the same, but to expect Jacobs to start negotiating at a lower price point doesn't seem logical or rational.

      Yes, I agree Jacobs is doing whatever he can to get the most he can. My problem with OP, you and others is you would never ask GGG to accept whatever Canelo offers yet you want Jacobs to take less and "be happy he is getting a GGG shot". You would never ask or expect GGG to negotiate the same way.


      BS, you can't have it both ways. Either every B side gets to negotiate or they have to accept the offer they get.

      Whether we agree or disagree the purse bid is the last bit of leverage Jacobs and his team have to use so they are going to use it, same as any fighter would.
      You can have it both ways .. because GGG would be the defending champion, putting his 3 world titles on the line, in BOTH fights.

      As such, there is no reason to criticise people for applying different standards to Golovkin and Jacobs. They are in completely different situations.

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        #133
        Originally posted by kafkod
        You can have it both ways .. because GGG would be the defending champion, putting his 3 world titles on the line, in BOTH fights.

        As such, there is no reason to criticise people for applying different standards to Golovkin and Jacobs. They are in completely different situations.

        that it irrelevant when it comes to determining the A-side

        when it comes to Golovkin/Ward, you guys always say that Ward cannot sell a ticket outside Oakland

        If Golovkin cannot generate enough revenue to pay Jacobs 2-3mil, then why should Canelo pay him 10mil?

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          #134
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          that it irrelevant when it comes to determining the A-side

          when it comes to Golovkin/Ward, you guys always say that Ward cannot sell a ticket outside Oakland

          If Golovkin cannot generate enough revenue to pay Jacobs 2-3mil, then why should Canelo pay him 10mil?
          Canelo shouldn't pay GGG anything, not one cent.

          He should just cut the bullshit and agree to a fair split of the income from the fight, however much it generates, which seems to be all Golovkin is asking for.

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            #135
            Originally posted by OnePunch
            I didnt say thats what he should do, I simply answered a question as to what UK fights would be financially feasible for GGG

            Now with that being said, Im not 100% convinced that he will be able to fulfill his unification goal. From the historical perspective I hope he can, but with the nonsense from Saunders, Jacobs taking 6 months to negotiate a mandatory defense, an IBF mando coming up in the next few months and a potential WBC mando as well as the Canelo fight, I'm just not that optimistic that they can keep it all together.

            and if they did ultimately get Degale in the next year or 2, it needs to be at 168
            i agree with you, i find it hard to believe he can make it...

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              #136
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime

              when it comes to Golovkin/Ward, you guys always say that Ward cannot sell a ticket outside Oakland
              Both Ward and Golovkin only have 1 PPV fight. Guess who ended up being the bigger draw after all?

              If I'm not mistaken, Team GGG wanted 70-30 against Ward

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                #137
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                when it comes to Golovkin/Ward, you guys always say that Ward cannot sell a ticket outside Oakland
                Speaking of which, these guys kill me with "Ward can't fight out of Oakland" nonsense.

                What if you have a guy from Las Vegas, does that mean that he can't fight in Vegas because he's from there?

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Canelo shouldn't pay GGG anything, not one cent.

                  He should just cut the bullshit and agree to a fair split of the income from the fight, however much it generates, which seems to be all Golovkin is asking for.

                  ..... but, if Golovkin cannot generate enough revenue to pay Jacobs 2-3mil, then why would Canelo pay him 10mil..... let alone a "split of the income"?

                  10mil is a good - to very good - offer..... better fighters have accepted way less, that's for sure

                  maybe they should offer him a split, but there are always double-standards when it comes to Golovkin

                  * publicly criticizes cw's, then does same thing to Ward/Froch
                  * publicly criticizes businessmen, than fights Kell Brook
                  * publicly talks 154-168, then refuses to fight outside 160
                  * publicly demands more money, then low-balls Jacobs

                  mo money, mo problems

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    ..... but, if Golovkin cannot generate enough revenue to pay Jacobs 2-3mil, then why would Canelo pay him 10mil..... let alone a "split of the income"?

                    10mil is a good - to very good - offer..... better fighters have accepted way less, that's for sure

                    maybe they should offer him a split, but there are always double-standards when it comes to Golovkin

                    * publicly criticizes cw's, then does same thing to Ward/Froch
                    * publicly criticizes businessmen, than fights Kell Brook
                    * publicly talks 154-168, then refuses to fight outside 160
                    * publicly demands more money, then low-balls Jacobs

                    mo money, mo problems
                    Can't you read, ****wit? I said Canelo shouldn't pay GGG a cent, they should share the income from the fight.

                    And if we're playing silly buggers here, answer me this question .. how could somebody who only sold 250K PPVs in his last fight pay anybody $10million?

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      Can't you read, ****wit? I said Canelo shouldn't pay GGG a cent, they should share the income from the fight.

                      And if we're playing silly buggers here, answer me this question .. how could somebody who only sold 250K PPVs in his last fight pay anybody $10million?

                      I agree !

                      ..... and Golovkin can only sell 97k PPV's..... so, how is it reasonable to suggest that a guy who cannot generate enough revenue to pay Jacobs more than "Quillin money", deserves more than 10mil for Canelo?

                      you don't intend to answer that question, do you ?

                      I don't see the money in that fight at all

                      Canelo is a diva, we know that..... but why won't Mr 154-168 Businessman simply take the money?

                      you don't intend to answer that question either, do you ?


                      the Canelo fight is sitting there if Golovkin wants it, and so is the Jacobs fight you dumbass..... but..... I will just sit here and prepare myself for the b,b,b,b,b,but everyone duckin doe, stories

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