Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin's Promoter on Facing Jacobs, Canelo, Chavez Jr.

[Motorcity Cobra]

GGG vs. Saunders, Eubank, or Degale would all do well at the box office......

Billie Joe isn't a draw. His fight with Lee had to be postponed mulitple time and venue changed because of poor ticket sales. His last fight was in a lesuire centre

Degale isn't a draw in the UK either. He doesn't even fight there anymore. Hearn himself said that. If DeGale was the draw in the UK that Brook is he would've offered up DeGale instead of Brook.

Eubank Jr just moved to 168. He isn't a draw either. That'll be proven his next fight when it bombs on ITV PPV.

[Tomjas]

This is what I don't get. Loeffler is on record this year saying the fight will be bigger than Lemieux/GGG and do better financially than GGG/Lemieux. But Loeffler wants to offer Jacobs only 200k more than Lemieux.

Jacobs should accept any reasonable offer.

Lose and his credibility wont suffer too much of a hit as it's GGG

Win and it's name your own price as he is an American that has beaten cancer and the big bad wolf.

His earning power could potentially dwarf GGG's IMO

[_Maxi]

This is what I don't get. Loeffler is on record this year saying the fight will be bigger than Lemieux/GGG and do better financially than GGG/Lemieux. But Loeffler wants to offer Jacobs only 200k more than Lemieux.

And WTF do you expect him to say?

"I'm negotiating a very small fight you know, this fight won't sell, Jacobs doesn't have people behind, but I hope it sells a little better than 150k?"

Of course he's gonna say things like this fight will be huge etc... he's a promoter.

[_Maxi]

Billie Joe isn't a draw. His fight with Lee had to be postponed mulitple time and venue changed because of poor ticket sales. His last fight was in a lesuire centre

Degale isn't a draw in the UK either. He doesn't even fight there anymore. Hearn himself said that. If DeGale was the draw in the UK that Brook is he would've offered up DeGale instead of Brook.

Eubank Jr just moved to 168. He isn't a draw either. That'll be proven his next fight when it bombs on ITV PPV.

Yeah and Brook wasn't a draw either and was fighting bums but we got 600k UK buys and 5 million purses for each fighter.

[Motorcity Cobra]

And how do you estimate?

I showed you how. I took previous PPV sales. Canelo's PPV high without Floyd was 350k. Cotto's PPV high without Floyd or Manny was 600k. Together they did 900k. Now Canelo's PPV high without Floyd is 460k (Khan) and GGG's is 150k. I know there are other factors to consider but you also have to consider GGG's last fight did worse ratings than his fight against Murray which was held in the same time frame.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Hopefully that number has gone up since negotiations or maybe they've increased Jacobs percentages on the back end

I'm really wondering if the reason Loeffler extended the negotiations is because if the negotiation details were made public after a failed negotiation w/ Jacobs, the public outcry would've been massive against Loeffler. Much more than it has ever been before.

Hopefully all these details come out shortly

It'll come out at the purse bid. Their bid will show us how much they think GGG can really generate in revenue.

[Motorcity Cobra]

And WTF do you expect him to say?

"I'm negotiating a very small fight you know, this fight won't sell, Jacobs doesn't have people behind, but I hope it sells a little better than 150k?"

Of course he's gonna say things like this fight will be huge etc... he's a promoter.

This was back in April before the WBA called the purse bid and while he wasn't negotiating with Jacobs. So.....?????

[_Maxi]

I showed you how. I took previous PPV sales. Canelo's PPV high without Floyd was 350k. Cotto's PPV high without Floyd or Manny was 600k. Together they did 900k. Now Canelo's PPV high without Floyd is 460k (Khan) and GGG's is 150k. I know there are other factors to consider but you also have to consider GGG's last fight did worse ratings than his fight against Murray which was held in the same time frame.

So you have a floor of 500k. It will double it, trust my words. I'll go beyond and say it will sell 1.1 or 1.2 millions.

[_Maxi]

This was back in April before the WBA called the purse bid and while he wasn't negotiating with Jacobs. So.....?????

I keep toying with you dude.

That video was from April 24th, same day after WBA announced that if Canelo-Golovkin didn't happen then they would mandate Golovkin-Jacobs http://www.boxingscene.com/wba-if-no...jacobs--103815

It was the next fight according to the WBA, so of course he was gonna say that.

[Kazakh Boxing]

For all those who have no clue: Tom is working for GGG not the other way around - they have co-promotion and GGG makes ultimate decisions.
And those who blame it on Tom for always talking good about GGG opponents - if you can't convince a girl for a date because she is afraid of you, your buddy won't talk **** to that girl to completely ruin chances. Tom is GGG's wing and Jacobs is that pus*y.