Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Winner of Kovalev Fight Should Be P4P Number 1

[Madison Boxing]

Being a ggg fan, we already know that your standards and expectations (at least for the fighters u like) are VERY LOW. So why then would u even attempt to marginalize the fight that's widely considered the Hagler/Hearns of this era ?

Do u realize how ****** and bias u sound ?

ive literally heard noone compare this fight to hagler/hearns

[1hourRun]

It's not about what ggg/team claims. Rather it's about the facts which are Wards team sent ggg an offer which was rejected in a record setting 36 minutes. Please remember that gggs team validated this story accompanied with 10 excuses why they turned down the offer.

I really dont care. I hate GGG threads and the back and forth not a fan of his either bottom line : if you didn't get the fights regardless of whos fault you get no credit from me.

[NYC8224]

Hagler-Hearns? Lol Ward and Kovalev are good but who the **** did they really beat? Lol a few decent fighters here and there? A 100 year old Hopkins?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Roman Gonzalez is my P4P and I doubt you have a thorough grasp of flyweight and Jr Bantamweight as been the case in most of my arguments with newbs on this board...and Im not even trying to go there with you right now...comparing resumes etc...I already given my basic argument why both Ward and Kovalev are not P4P...one guy is close too 34 years old beat a active HOF a euro bum in Nathan Cleverly who hasn't even beat the lineal champion of his division you got Ward who hasn't been fighting elite level opponents for five years now...so he moves up good I respect that but this guy Kovalev just started fighting top and elite opponents the last three years!!! where was he in 2008?? not even a pro ; Im not buying the hype..My #2 is Crawford became lineal in two weights in less than two years! who does that? it took Ward how many years to move up?

Roman is cool, and who doesn't like Crawford ? Maybe lineal in two weights in the last two years but thats probably more of a reflection of the lack of talent in those weight classes. As far as Roman, yes I know who he is, struggled mightily his last fight but his weight class is usually a henderance to being recognized as P4P . But not bad picks regardless.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Hagler-Hearns? Lol Ward and Kovalev are good but who the **** did they really beat? Lol a few decent fighters here and there? A 100 year old Hopkins?

They beat everyone that was put in front of them, which names were u looking for them to beat ?

[Lou Cipher]

True. If the winner can beat GGG 2 out of 3 times.

[SugarRaRobinson]

I really dont care. I hate GGG threads and the back and forth not a fan of his either bottom line : if you didn't get the fights regardless of whos fault you get no credit from me.

If u don't get the fights ???
Once again, which fights are the fights your looking for them to get ? You mention Roman and Crawford as your number 1 and 2 respectively, but Kov and Wards resume collectively sh.ts on theirs collectively so what your saying doesn't makes a whole lot of sense based on resumes, but does make some sense based on skill set, of which the P4P designation is primarily predicated on.

Pound for pound is a term used in combat sports such as boxing or mixed martial arts to reflect an assessment as to who the better fighters are, regardless of size (i.e., regardless of weight class). As these fighters do not compete directly, judging the best fighter pound for pound is subjective, and ratings vary.

[1hourRun]

If u don't get the fights ???
Once again, which fights are the fights your looking for them to get ? You mention Roman and Crawford as your number 1 and 2 respectively, but Kov and Wards resume collectively sh.ts on theirs collectively so what your saying doesn't makes a whole lot of sense based on resumes, but does make some sense based on skill set, of which the P4P designation is primarily predicated on.

Pound for pound is a term used in combat sports such as boxing or mixed martial arts to reflect an assessment as to who the better fighters are, regardless of size (i.e., regardless of weight class). As these fighters do not compete directly, judging the best fighter pound for pound is subjective, and ratings vary.

I was replying to the circumstances that you mentioned surrounding Ward and GGG as to why fighter A did not fight fighter B...I dont like getting into all that with Golovkin he irritates me...you went there so I answered...and I dont understand why you are insisting on me providing names for these guys to fight...I think its irrelevant Im dealing with actual resumes not fantasy match ups...Im not looking for anyone I can only go by what they accomplished.

[NYC8224]

They beat everyone that was put in front of them, which names were u looking for them to beat ?

Who are their best wins? Some weak opponents imo

[Dean_Razorback]

no, chocolatito will be the number 1 regardless of the outcome of this fight. winner will be up there though. especially ward if he beats one of the best in a different weight class after comming from a long lay off