It took Pac 2 fights to make $40 mil. How many fights will it take GGG to make $10 mi

[Motorcity Cobra]

It's ridiculous to compare Floyd's low ball $40mil offer to Pac with Canelo's $10mil w/upside offer to GGG. Pac had a $20 mil guarantee & PPV upside and he was selling north of 800k PPV. Golovkin would have to fight the next two years to come close to the $10mil + PPV upside Canelo is offering. The only fight he could take where he'd make close to half of that is the winner of Ward vs Kovalev. But we all know that ain't happening

[Guest]

I think 3 to 4.

He got 4 mil for brook so you figure 3 more fights a 2 million and he's there.

He likes to fight 3x a year so I think 10 million in a year is good scratch.

I am sure he could do it in a year to 18 months.

And plus it's good for us. Whenever someone makes a ton they always take too much time off. Mayweather got the DLH and Hatton paydays and he was like see ya for 2 years. And who could blame him. That was a ton of money.

[TheCell8]

It's ridiculous to compare Floyd's low ball $40mil offer to Pac with Canelo's $10mil w/upside offer to GGG.

Ummm no. In both instances you're neglecting the potential.

Floyd - Manny was the biggest fight ever, but because Manny never had a guaranteed purse of higher than $20M, Floyd thought it would be fair to give him his biggest offer ever of $40M with no PPV upside because he was selling more PPV's... That's the same thought process Canelo (or Oscar) has towards GGG.

We found out 3 years later that the low ball offer was terrible as the fight did 4.4M buys and Pacquiao got over $120M, 3 times as much as the initial offer.

That's how bad of a deal it was.

The same goes for GGG vs. Canelo. Regardless if Canelo is the biggest star and a bigger star. He's not doing over 1M buys without Golovkin. His recent PPV numbers proved that. Just like Floyd could never do 3 or even 4M buys without Pacquiao. Because of that, you have to give Golovkin a percentage of the PPV. Now we can debate what percentage that is, but a flat fee in this instances doesn't work.

[Motorcity Cobra]

I think 3 to 4.

He got 4 mil for brook so you figure 3 more fights a 2 million and he's there.

He likes to fight 3x a year so I think 10 million in a year is good scratch.

I am sure he could do it in a year to 18 months.

And plus it's good for us. Whenever someone makes a ton they always take too much time off. Mayweather got the DLH and Hatton paydays and he was like see ya for 2 years. And who could blame him. That was a ton of money.

He got $4 mil against Brook because of the circumstances. He traveled to fight on Brook's card and took the flat fee. He's not getting $4 mil against Saunders, Jacobs, Ramirez, or DeGale.

[Larry the boss]

I dont know but at 34 and with his style he doesnt have much time left

[Guest]

He got $4 mil against Brook because of the circumstances. He traveled to fight on Brook's card and took the flat fee. He's not getting $4 mil against Saunders, Jacobs, Ramirez, or DeGale.

2.5 mil x 4 fights is reasonable. 10 million in 15-18 months.

And no waiting or retiring then coming back.

Great for the fans to have an active champion. Too bad he wasn't American or Mexican or something. He'd blow that 10 million number out of the water.

[Motorcity Cobra]

2.5 mil x 4 fights is reasonable. 10 million in 15-18 months.

And no waiting or retiring then coming back.

Great for the fans to have an active champion. Too bad he wasn't American or Mexican or something. He'd blow that 10 million number out of the water.

You aren't counting the PPV upside for GGG so his take home would be more than $10 mil. With Manny's $20 mil guarantee and PPV upside he was probably getting close to $30 mil a fight.

[Larry the boss]

You aren't counting the PPV upside for GGG so his take home would be more than $10 mil. With Manny's $20 mil guarantee and PPV upside he was probably getting close to $30 mil a fight.

GGG was offered no upside nor was Manny with the 40 million offer..both were flat fees with 0 upside

[Motorcity Cobra]

GGG was offered no upside nor was Manny with the 40 million offer..both were flat fees with 0 upside

Manny wasn't offered upside. GGG was:

Oscar De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter, said late Saturday night that he could pay three-belt middleweight champion Golovkin at least $10 million plus an undisclosed pay-per-view percentage.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-sn-boxing-gennady-golovkin-canelo-alvarez-daniel-jacobs-20160921-snap-story.html

[Raonic]

Lol why are you comparing it as a proportionate? The point is that it undermines their value relative to what they offer to the fight. Pacquiao's $40 mil offer was clearly worse but that doesn't make the $10 million offer a justifiable one.