Comments Thread For: "Fighting Words" - Canelo, Texas: The Lone Superstar State

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by David P. Greisman - ARLINGTON, Texas - On Friday afternoon at AT&T Stadium, after Canelo Alvarez and Liam Smith and 20 other boxers of lesser stature had stepped on and off the scales, and after the fans had left the weigh-in inside and the fiesta outside, Sergey Kovalev and his manager strode into a sizable room set aside for media members...
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[Progrssive_Jedi]

Its not just that besting Trout, Lara, Cotto doesn't say greatness, it's how he best them.

Not one big win Canelo has that everyone thought he actually one. That's the issue, he doesn't dominate, always has one suspect card.

I think he beat Lara, but more because Lara decided to run. I think Trout was at best a draw. And Cotto he won, but Cotto was too small, too old. The same Cotto who got beat Trout and KO'd by Pac.

Canelo hass solid wins against top JRMW, and a bunch of old small dudes. The smith title is his kind of the first fighting a guy from the division the title is fought in. Hatton from 147, Cotto was a 154. Yet Canelo is a two division champion. Sure ok.

GGG had wins against a bunch of top MW, but can't get the top top MW in the ring. The old guys duck him too, Froch.

Trout, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, Cotto, Smith all get destroyed by GGG. That shouldn't be in question.

And Canelo doesn't ko Murray. Lemiuex would be dangerous for him, but would get out boxed. Brook I think if he doesn't get injured goes 12 with Canelo.

Canelo won't fight Jacobs, far too dangerous with little upside.

[World Champion?]

Its not just that besting Trout, Lara, Cotto doesn't say greatness, it's how he best them.

Not one big win Canelo has that everyone thought he actually one. That's the issue, he doesn't dominate, always has one suspect card.

I think he beat Lara, but more because Lara decided to run. I think Trout was at best a draw. And Cotto he won, but Cotto was too small, too old. The same Cotto who got beat Trout and KO'd by Pac.

Canelo hass solid wins against top JRMW, and a bunch of old small dudes. The smith title is his kind of the first fighting a guy from the division the title is fought in. Hatton from 147, Cotto was a 154. Yet Canelo is a two division champion. Sure ok.

GGG had wins against a bunch of top MW, but can't get the top top MW in the ring. The old guys duck him too, Froch.

Trout, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, Cotto, Smith all get destroyed by GGG. That shouldn't be in question.

And Canelo doesn't ko Murray. Lemiuex would be dangerous for him, but would get out boxed. Brook I think if he doesn't get injured goes 12 with Canelo.

Canelo won't fight Jacobs, far too dangerous with little upside.

I agree but I think the fact that Canelo is still 26 and looks to me to be getting better is why his promoters are being so careful with him, although I think taking a fight at 154 was potentially very risky, though they didn't have much other choice. Nonetheless, he has time to develop his name, his skills and obviously his earning power.

On the other hand Golovkin is 34 and will hopefully fight his best opponent in Daniel Jacobs in November, so there is a lot of criticism for those that wish to do that and probably not much time for him to do much other than unify the middleweight division and defend his titles.

Also it is interesting that GGG may be able to unify the 4 world titles and yet still not be the lineal title holder of his division. That kind of symbolizes why its necessary for these guys to fight to prove themselves as being the best.

[PunchyPotorff]

I'm sure it is a temptation to ride the 'big event' streak Canelo has built for himself. But his greatness will happen soon enough, and it's obvious that's where he wants to go. I'm not interested in rushing it along. Let it happen organically.

GGG on the other hand has several less years to prove his greatness, because he'll never be regarded as such by fighting the Wades, Monroes, Rubios and Geales. He needs Canelo more than Canelo needs him, if you're looking at a clicking clock timeframe, which GGG definitely is working against.

GGG has more to worry about than Canelo in that regard. And Canelo just needs to keep working on body shots to stop GGG. If there's a Canelo win vs GGG, that's the way it will happen. And then it's instant greatness. Not easy, but there's the formula.

[Bronx2245]

Its not just that besting Trout, Lara, Cotto doesn't say greatness, it's how he best them.

Not one big win Canelo has that everyone thought he actually one. That's the issue, he doesn't dominate, always has one suspect card.

I think he beat Lara, but more because Lara decided to run. I think Trout was at best a draw. And Cotto he won, but Cotto was too small, too old. The same Cotto who got beat Trout and KO'd by Pac.

Canelo hass solid wins against top JRMW, and a bunch of old small dudes. The smith title is his kind of the first fighting a guy from the division the title is fought in. Hatton from 147, Cotto was a 154. Yet Canelo is a two division champion. Sure ok.

GGG had wins against a bunch of top MW, but can't get the top top MW in the ring. The old guys duck him too, Froch.

Trout, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, Cotto, Smith all get destroyed by GGG. That shouldn't be in question.

And Canelo doesn't ko Murray. Lemiuex would be dangerous for him, but would get out boxed. Brook I think if he doesn't get injured goes 12 with Canelo.

Canelo won't fight Jacobs, far too dangerous with little upside.

"Trout, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, Cotto, Smith all get destroyed by GGG. " That's true if he fought them @ 160. I'm not so sure if he fought them @ 154 like Canelo did. I would love to see GGG fight Lara. I know he wouldn't do it @ 154, but I would love to see Lara step up and fight him @ 160.

[PETUFF]

So now GGG is the coward!!if GGG don't sign the fight with Canelo now you a coward in my eyes

[ironlungs]

Its not just that besting Trout, Lara, Cotto doesn't say greatness, it's how he best them.

Not one big win Canelo has that everyone thought he actually one. That's the issue, he doesn't dominate, always has one suspect card.

I think he beat Lara, but more because Lara decided to run. I think Trout was at best a draw. And Cotto he won, but Cotto was too small, too old. The same Cotto who got beat Trout and KO'd by Pac.

Canelo hass solid wins against top JRMW, and a bunch of old small dudes. The smith title is his kind of the first fighting a guy from the division the title is fought in. Hatton from 147, Cotto was a 154. Yet Canelo is a two division champion. Sure ok.

GGG had wins against a bunch of top MW, but can't get the top top MW in the ring. The old guys duck him too, Froch.

Trout, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, Cotto, Smith all get destroyed by GGG. That shouldn't be in question.

And Canelo doesn't ko Murray. Lemiuex would be dangerous for him, but would get out boxed. Brook I think if he doesn't get injured goes 12 with Canelo.

Canelo won't fight Jacobs, far too dangerous with little upside.

Styles make fights, cant compare what one did against another fighter.

[Shadoww702]

Its not just that besting Trout, Lara, Cotto doesn't say greatness, it's how he best them.

Not one big win Canelo has that everyone thought he actually one. That's the issue, he doesn't dominate, always has one suspect card.

I think he beat Lara, but more because Lara decided to run. I think Trout was at best a draw. And Cotto he won, but Cotto was too small, too old. The same Cotto who got beat Trout and KO'd by Pac.

Canelo hass solid wins against top JRMW, and a bunch of old small dudes. The smith title is his kind of the first fighting a guy from the division the title is fought in. Hatton from 147, Cotto was a 154. Yet Canelo is a two division champion. Sure ok.

GGG had wins against a bunch of top MW, but can't get the top top MW in the ring. The old guys duck him too, Froch.

Trout, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, Cotto, Smith all get destroyed by GGG. That shouldn't be in question.

And Canelo doesn't ko Murray. Lemiuex would be dangerous for him, but would get out boxed. Brook I think if he doesn't get injured goes 12 with Canelo.

Canelo won't fight Jacobs, far too dangerous with little upside.

Why does everyone give "No HEART" Trout a pass for giving up??? The dude knew he was losing and QUIT didn't do Jack SHT to win. He KNEW he was losing and instead of going all-in! he quit!!! The open scoring killed the fight when Trout knew he was losing instead of throwing a Hail Mary pass he continued to hand-off on his own 1 yard line. WTF did Canelo have to do?? He did what EVERYONE does when they're winning. Kick back and protect the lead... Trout needed a KO and instead said *** that! Because he was already Bambi-Legged a few times. And I guess getting Knocked down for the 1st time as a pro and a Bloody mouth took his HEART out of the fight.

[Shadoww702]

Styles make fights, cant compare what one did against another fighter.

And when two ppl don't want to engage you that doesn't help either.

[Shadoww702]

So now GGG is the coward!!if GGG don't sign the fight with Canelo now you a coward in my eyes

LA Times just announced that Oscar has offered GGG at LEAST $10,000,000 plus some up side PPV $$

That is more than GGG has paid all his opponents....Combined!

A guy who NEVER fights on PPV and when he did it tanked better TAKE that offer. If he doesn't or wants to out price himself then GGG is the ducker.