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  • BrometheusBob.
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    #51
    The thing you should consider is that sometimes fighters who demonstrate something early go on to be the favorite almost every single outing afterwards. Even if they take on risks, people figure them to win.

    For example, Khan has never been an underdog until this Canelo fight. It took fighting a P4P fighter competing at 8lbs above his weight to be an underdog. He was even being forecasted to be a solid favorite if he had chosen to rematch Garcia instead of Canelo, even though he already lost to him.

    Similarly Mayweather might only have been an underdog against Genaro Hernandez, and was the favorite in every afterwards (To my knowledge anyway. Can't find any sources to suggest he was the underdog against Corrales as so many suggest). He was only <2/1 against Pacman, Canelo, ODLH and Corrales.

    And now that the hype for Errol Spence is so big, who knows when we'll see him be the underdog. He's probably 50/50 against the best at WW.

    TDLR: Being a favorite isn't proof in itself that a fighter isn't taking risks. It also depends on people's perception of the fighter and how wide the odds are.
    Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 04-23-2016, 12:34 PM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
      Corrales was the favorite against mayweather and odlh was too...
      Mayweather was about a 2/1 favorite to beat ODLH.



      Every source I can find puts Corrales/Mayweather as either even money or slight Mayweather favorite. Please show me otherwise.



      A collection of analyst predictions on Mayweather/Corrales - 18 picked Mayweather, 15 picked Corrales.


      During the HBO broadcast leading into the fight, Larry Merchant said Mayweather was the slight (6-5) favorite and that most people do not think Corrales will win. (12:46-13:02)

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      • TripleGFightFan
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        #53
        Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
        Mayweather was about a 2/1 favorite to beat ODLH.



        Every source I can find puts Corrales/Mayweather as either even money or slight Mayweather favorite. Please show me otherwise.



        A collection of analyst predictions on Mayweather/Corrales - 18 picked Mayweather, 15 picked Corrales.


        During the HBO broadcast leading into the fight, Larry Merchant said Mayweather was the slight (6-5) favorite and that most people do not think Corrales will win. (12:46-13:02)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW7oj7QosjA
        FMJ was the underdog when he fought Genaro Hernandez and Diego Corrales, everyone thought he'd lose to Corrales and Gatti a lot thought he'd lose to Baldomir and Canelo...lmao...fought the best guys in the divisions he campaigned in...never ducked and fought everybody that stepped up...5 different weight classes...even BHOP got belts in multiple weight classes...that's what greats do...fight the top guys in the division and get belts in different weight classes to prove p4p status...164 doe...

        Now to play your game here are some key points from your own link:

        Mayweather vs Corrales Facts & Stats

        Floyd Mayweather (24-0, 17 KO) vs Diego Corrales (33-0, 27 KO)

        Coming into the bout Mayweather and Corrales were undefeated and neither

        fighter had been knocked down

        Mayweather was ranked by RING Magazine No. 2 in the Super Featherweight

        division and No. 7 Pound-For-Pound while Diego was the top ranked super

        featherweight in the world and No. 5 pound-for-pound

        Odds were about even on this bout
        About even but more favored Corrales:


        Another quote from a link from a boxingsource for you...

        "I know that I'm in the minority here, but I like Floyd Mayweather by
        decision.
        I know that Diego is a rough guy, but I feel that Floyd's
        handspeed is going to be a HUGE factor in the bout. Corrales MUST bring the
        fight to him and put some hurt on him early to win. But while Diego is
        moving in, he'll be greeted with very fast jabs & combinations that, IMO,
        will keep him from getting set to throw his shots. Also, if everyone leans
        to one fighter in a big showdown, the other guy usually wins (EG: Hagler -
        Leonard, Morales - Barrera, etc.). That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see
        Corrales win
        but my gut tells me Floyd by decision.
        Steve Coughlin,
        The CBZ


        Back to your link: http://www.fightsaga.com/boxing-vide...ats-Highlights

        Both fighters were 23

        [B]Diego was 3-4 inches taller and had a longer reach.B]
        FMJ fought a guy favored to beat him who was 304 inches taller and had a longer reach with devasting KO power...FMJ did not ask for a catchweight...lol

        Both fighters made weight at 130 lbs but Corrales entered at 146 lbs while

        Outweighed FMJ on fight night by 9 and a half pounds basically 10 pounds...

        Mayweather stepped into the ring at 136½ lbs.

        FMJ still took the challenge and whooped that ass...your turn...
        Last edited by TripleGFightFan; 04-23-2016, 01:51 PM.

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        • Real King Kong
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          #54
          Originally posted by TripleGFightFan

          FMJ was the underdog when he fought Genaro Hernandez and Diego Corrales, everyone thought he'd lose to Corrales and Gatti a lot thought he'd lose to Baldomir and Canelo...lmao...fought the best guys in the divisions he campaigned in...never ducked and fought everybody that stepped up...5 different weight classes...even BHOP got belts in multiple weight classes...that's what greats do...fight the top guys in the division and get belts in different weight classes to prove p4p status...164 doe...
          Everyone thought floyd would lose to gatti? I remember members of the press openly and unprofessionally rooting for gatti, but the vast majority picked mayweather to win easily. As for the corrales fight...the sports books i checked before the fight were even or had mayweather a slight favorite, and a draw paid big. I distictly remember cuz a friend of mine wanted odds on corrales to make a bet. There were many members of the media picking corrales tho. Here's an interesting site, it doesn't include the corrales fight...

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            #55
            Originally posted by mexicanstyle
            Was danny garcia favored against mathysse?becausen he never looks to fight guys who wouldbe favored against him.i doubt he would fight any body favored agains him errol spence were to fight garcia and get k.o. Daddy garcia would have and epilecti and tourrettes syndrome seizure.
            Amir Khan and I think Matthysse was as well.

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            • _Maxi
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              #56
              Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
              Corrales was the favorite against mayweather and odlh was too...
              Bets don't mean ****. Odding bets are giving Khan some chances against Canelo, when we all know his chances are zero.

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                #57
                Originally posted by SilverMiles
                Not even Mayweather's fuq boy fans would be willing to put up money on him.
                if GGG had to make 154 I think Floyd would be the betting favourite.

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                • TripleGFightFan
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  Bets don't mean ****. Odding bets are giving Khan some chances against Canelo, when we all know his chances are zero.
                  Slight chance and betting favorite are two different things...

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                  • TripleGFightFan
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                    #59
                    Bump...

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SilverMiles
                      Mayweather.
                      He was and would be a favorite against anyone in his weight and he understandably won't fight much bigger men so yeah kinda true

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