Vanes says hes making 1.5M for fight against Lara

[_Maxi]

Thats the question. It is what it is doe. If Haymon can do what he thinks he can do boxing will be bigger than its been in a long time & will readjust to that reality & if Haymon can't do it then boxing will keep with its current premium cable & PPV niche market method & will readjust fully back to that reality.

I think HBO Boxing getting a budget reduction year in & year out for a couple decades now is the most troubling thing happening in boxing these days. I feel that this eventually leads to HBO Boxing no longer existing or only existing as a even smaller, more niche PPV arm only maybe. What does boxing look like in 10 years if Haymon fails & HBO gets out of the boxing business largely or completely?

I don't think a monopoly has to be something good. I think that if there's more competition it's better. Let's see what father time brings but I think so far Haymon has made everyone a coward.

[Eastcoast]

WTF would anyone pay Vanes $1.5mill to fight Lara again? The first fight was so horrible to watch they dropped the idea of a rematch even though it ended prematurely and it was a title eliminator for Canelo. Awesome use of resources. Could've used that money to put together a fight people actually wanted to watch...

[-Antonio-]

Where do they get this money from? How do they make it back? Ticket sales aren't that great. It's not like they are selling out big arenas. Are his advertisement deals that lucrative?

[El-blanco]

Where do they get this money from? How do they make it back? Ticket sales aren't that great. It's not like they are selling out big arenas. Are his advertisement deals that lucrative?

They don't make it back. Overpaying paying guys has really hurt boxing. You're seeing outrageous demands for purses for regular fights because of haymon's tactics. Fights aren't getting made because guys have an inflated sense of worth, so instead we get broner vs theopane.

[Eff Pandas]

I don't think a monopoly has to be something good. I think that if there's more competition it's better.

I can't see that a competitive market in sports has ever worked out great for any particular sport, certainly not the sports as big or bigger than boxing. The cream rises to the top sure, but there needs to be some centralized power structure that helps that cream rising to the top in a timely manner.

I'd also argue there is too much competition in boxing. You got independent contractors (boxers) vying for interest among powerful promoters who have to make a profit via building their product (the boxer) into a draw while also moving him up the rankings carefully of one of 4 "world" rankings to one of 4 "world" belts without catching a L cuz a L in boxing will greatly reduce the boxer & promoters future earning power.

In boxings current competitive market you oddly enough get a less competitive sport while a less competitive market in boxing would give us a more competitive sport cuz as the UFC has shown they give no f#cks who loses while fighting under their banner.

There are bigger structural problems with boxings current model than anything Haymon is doing.

[about.thousands]

Vanes is ******ed. And if you believe Vanes is making $1.5 mil you're ******ed too smh. Y'all know God damn well Vanes is special in the head. But since it's an opportunity to blast Haymon y'all jump on it.

[Raonic]

Big purse is great for the boxers but it is ruining the sport.

[El-blanco]

Vanes is ******ed. And if you believe Vanes is making $1.5 mil you're ******ed too smh. Y'all know God damn well Vanes is special in the head. But since it's an opportunity to blast Haymon y'all jump on it.

Yeah, because haymon has never paid guys millions of dollars before.

[jqSide]

Then you wonder why its take so long to make the top fights, those guys make good money on mismatches...

It's basic economics of supply and demand. Meaningless fights are in great demand so...

[El-blanco]

It's basic economics of supply and demand. Meaningless fights are in great demand so...

You would think meaningless fights are in demand based on the fanboys here who are just happy to see their heroes get money to fight garbage, but the reality is, attendance is low and ratings are falling. Showtime's ratings have fallen off a cliff and HBO's aren't doing great lately either. Ward was just in a very good fight and his ratings were slightly above a million. He was getting close to 2 million before. Haymon events are also losing money. Most people don't care about boxing but things have gotten so bad even hardcore fans are turning away. Boxing will never die but this is about as bad as I can remember in a long time.