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Golovkin declared Top 24 P4P of last 25 years

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  • Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
    Didn't you just say you're wasting your time talking to me?
    Didn't really pay attention to the screen name just saw a factually incorrect post and decided to correct them.
    Last edited by SilverMiles; 04-04-2016, 03:04 PM.

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    • Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
      Didn't really pay attention to the screen name just saw a factually incorrect post and decided to correct them.
      I was using hyperbole hence the

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      • Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
        because they think somehow that makes them appear smart. Even though P4P has NOTHING to do with "resume", they imediately revert to chirping "but but but resume doe" because they can just look at Boxrec and not have to actually be able to analyze talent......
        How can you not include resume? A guy like loma looks sharper and better than say Danny Garcia, but Danny is higher pfp based on resume

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        • Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
          Of course its speculation. That is kind of the point of fantasy matchups, no? I don't see the point of overall resumes on a p4p list when the triangle theory rarely pans out in boxing. Just because a fighter was able to beat x, y and z. Does'nt mean he will beat A, B and C. Just seems pointless to me to have a ATG/Best and a p4p list if you are going to judge them in the same fashion.

          As for his matchups. The only type of boxer I see giving him real problems is a fantastic inside fighter.
          thats my point, we have to see him fight a wider array of styles and elite opponents...until then its all speculation because for all his hype, its people who recieve less yet are more proven.

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          • Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
            The man sells out arenas on both coasts against unknown opposition, has the full support of HBO, and gets more and more popular every day. Id say YOU are the one who needs to "deal with it".....
            Gatti sold out atlantic city....was on ppv.....did that make him and elite fighter? nope

            GGG is a good fighter with a resume that leaves much to be desired ...get over it...he is unproven on the elite level

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            • Originally posted by CatchweightKing View Post
              How can you not include resume? A guy like loma looks sharper and better than say Danny Garcia, but Danny is higher pfp based on resume
              "resume" obviously carries more weight on an "ATG" list, but P4P always has been, and always will be, simply subjective opinions as to who would win mythical matchups that obviously will never happen. People assess a fighters skillset & tools, and make their decisions. There is no right or wrong answers

              What I mean is that for example Tito vs GGG will obviously never happen. There is no way to prove who would win if they fought. IMO ggg ghouls tito. Others might think Tito beats GGG. Its strictly OPINION, yet these clowns get all butthurt because ESPN had a different list than they did, and ESPN has a light-skinned guy on the list against their wishes lol. But in reality we all know what its REALLY about........
              Last edited by OnePunch; 04-04-2016, 03:33 PM.

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              • Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                "resume" obviously carries more weight on an "ATG" list, but P4P always has been, and always will be, simply subjective opinions as to who would win mythical matchups that obviously will never happen. People assess a fighters skillset & tools, and make their decisions. There is no right or wrong answers

                What I mean is that for example Tito vs GGG will obviously never happen. There is no way to prove who would win if they fought. IMO ggg ghouls tito. Others might think Tito beats GGG. Its strictly OPINION, yet these clowns get all butthurt because ESPN had a different list than they did, and ESPN has a light-skinned guy on the list against their wishes lol. But in reality we all know what its REALLY about........
                But like I said. If loma was at 147 most would pick him to beat Garcia. But he's not higher pfp cause he only has 1 decent win. You have to prove it. It has nothing to do with gg being white cmon now. There's no way he's top 25, the "can't include resume" thing is dumb.

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                • Originally posted by CatchweightKing View Post
                  But like I said. If loma was at 147 most would pick him to beat Garcia. But he's not higher pfp cause he only has 1 decent win. You have to prove it. It has nothing to do with gg being white cmon now. There's no way he's top 25, the "can't include resume" thing is dumb.
                  nobody said you "cant" include resume. Its simply a matter of how much weight you give it. If "resume" is the most important factor, then its no longer a P4P list, its an ATG list instead......

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                  • It's not as much racism as it is desperation, they wanna turn this guy into a star by any means necessary, even if it means making such a statement where as a reporter u can lose all credibility.

                    For some reason espn and HBO see superstar potential in GGG and they will say and do whatever it takes to hype him up even if it makes them sound like complete morons.
                    Last edited by Dip_Slide; 04-04-2016, 03:49 PM.

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                    • Golovkin doesn't belong among the top 25 fighters in the last 25 years if he hasn't even fought one dangerous opponent.

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