Canelo says he is not a middle weight and won't give up concessions to gg

[daggum]

Canelo says he's given up advantages to get here. When he fights gggBoxing, he's not giving up advantages https://t.co/BpnnWjAdpL

Good for canelo not budging.He needs to be a man of his word. Like when he said he would go down to fight Floyd and he did

he needs to be a man of his word and continue to fight in his own made up division? doesn' substance actualy matter? simply being a "man of your word" only matters when you are being a man of your word when it's something worth doing. like when you make a promise to someone and follow through. not when you make a promise to yourself to continue beign selfish and scared. that's not a good "man of your word" scenario.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It'll happen in due time, I remember his trainer said he wants to make sure Canelo is at his strongest when he fights at the full limit of 160, it's likely that. I've never been concerned of the fight not happening, literally never.

[HeroBando]

It'll happen in due time, I remember his trainer said he wants to make sure Canelo is at his strongest when he fights at the full limit of 160, it's likely that. I've never been concerned of the fight not happening, literally never.

It's a bad start, fighting a glass jawed welter. That's not how you grow into MW. He needs to give up the belt, then he can grow at his own pace

[BoxingIsGreat]

Canelo says he's given up advantages to get here. When he fights gggBoxing, he's not giving up advantages https://t.co/BpnnWjAdpL

Good for canelo not budging.He needs to be a man of his word. Like when he said he would go down to fight Floyd and he did

Where's the Mexican pride? I used to see a poster whose sig was "Mexicans take a bullet before they are called cowards." I'm paraphrasing, can't remember the exact words.

Whaever happened to that, it's not good. Fight your ****ing challenge and show us you are the goods. Canelo can fight even at 168. You will see soon.

[MrRolltide91]

Marinate....

[Jewish-Reptile]

I don't understand the issue here, well in fact I do, it's all about money. If GGG gave any damn about lineage he'd agree to 155 come in at 160 and he'd win easily like he has done against all the other contenders at the weight.

GGG and his team are just playing dumb they tell Ward 164, which by my calculations is right in the middle, yet 157 is out of the question for them against the bigger star ! Strange, dude should be grateful at that.

Right now I actually hope Canelo sticks to his guns and the fight doesn't happen unless it is at 155, just for GGG and his handlers refusing to toe the line up to press. But what would really make me admire GGG would be disregarding the stipulations and fines for each half pound and coming in at the full weight limit regardless.

I think we all know this is the pinnacle of GGG's career, the fight they have been building him up to all this time and the weight really isn't an issue as he will be making that dough win or lose, it ain't like he's gonna have a lengthily career after this anyway, Canelo on the other hand is and will. If 155 against GGG prolongs and does not damage his future career I'm all for that. Canelo will be in more competitive fights than GGG will. I tire of these mismatches GGG and his handlers have treat us to when clearly there is not a challenge at 160 for him, all this waiting on Martinez and Sturm etc has become tiresome.

[mick1303]

155 is the minimum at MW, 160 is the maximum. If GGG wants the fight, accept the terms or move on up. Ward wanted GGG, but did not accept the 164lb terms, so he moved on up. Abraham at 168 is there for the taking, it won't be easy but I think GGG beats him at this point, and he wins a title at 168, and earns a lot of money in that fight. When you want to fight in a big money fight, when you want a hand out from the bigger star, just accept his terms, Canelo doesn't need GGG right now. Floyd accepted all of DLH's demands and look at what the trade-in was for.

This is the example of "paid advertising" ))) Only someone with a vested interest can support such a bs. If someone is parading as a MW champion, he should not try to drain MANDATORY CHALLENGER below MW limit.

[HeroBando]

I don't understand the issue here, well in fact I do, it's all about money. If GGG gave any damn about lineage he'd agree to 155 come in at 160 and he'd win easily like he has done against all the other contenders at the weight.

GGG and his team are just playing dumb they tell Ward 164, which by my calculations is right in the middle, yet 157 is out of the question for them against the bigger star ! Strange, dude should be grateful at that.

Right now I actually hope Canelo sticks to his guns and the fight doesn't happen unless it is at 155, just for GGG and his handlers refusing to toe the line up to press. But what would really make me admire GGG would be disregarding the stipulations and fines for each half pound and coming in at the full weight limit regardless.

I think we all know this is the pinnacle of GGG's career, the fight they have been building him up to all this time and the weight really isn't an issue as he will be making that dough win or lose, it ain't like he's gonna have a lengthily career after this anyway, Canelo on the other hand is and will. If 155 against GGG prolongs and does not damage his future career I'm all for that. Canelo will be in more competitive fights than GGG will. I tire of these mismatches GGG and his handlers have treat us to when clearly there is not a challenge at 160 for him, all this waiting on Martinez and Sturm etc has become tiresome.

157 is not out of the question, in fact Loeffler said they'd consider a CW but not while Canelo is MW champ. If he was coming up in weight, offered 157 and 50/50 to B aide champ, they wouldn't think twice

[mick1303]

As much as i want GGG to move up, the Ward situation is different. GGG is aspiring to unify his division. If the Canelo fight doesn't happen which would be a big loss to boxing (not just GGG) then he would get the belt, and after that he would try and unify against BJS which would be a big fight in England where each guy can make 3+ million.

Ward either had a tough time making weight or wasn't aspiring to unify his division and there are strong enough challengers around that can give him a hard fight (specifically degale), Ward chose to move up and all the power to him because he will be facing in what i consider the toughest test one can face (in the 168 or 175 weight division) by fighting Kovalev. Beating Kovalev is a hell of an accomplishment, similarly unifying a division is also hell of an accomplishment because it also isn't something anyone can just do. its annoying as hell that it has to be done in a ****** way where someone would rather vacate then fight but it is what it is.

Ultimately i think GGG and his team feel that unifying the division will bring in the big fights and the big money. everyone can be a title holder but being the unified champion is a big thing... as it should be because there are very very few of those and sometimes divisions don't even have one for decades.

Strategically if the Canelo fight doesn't happen, GGG would still be considered one of the top cash cows after he unifies because of the 1) hype 2) the status of being unified 3) any fighter who would want recognition at middleweight would have to go and fight him, and no one will hide behind the belts... we will get fights like Jacobs and Canelo. Also as the unified champion you have more leverage against the big stars like Canelo.

If GGG does move to 168 he will face tougher challenges than at 160, but if he fights Degale and if he wins (Degale will be a tough fight), he will face the same Dilemma at that weight as he does now... no big names to fight unless he makes the move again to 175.

All this is true, except GGG is ALREADY a unified champion. He holds VBA and IBF. WBC historically is a most significant missing piece (WBO is still considered somewhat "junior" to the 3 mentioned above). What I really don't know if GGG will be considered undisputed if he takes WBC (either via the fight or vacated by Canelo), but BJS will still hold WBO. Probably not... He needs all 4 of them.

[LetOutTheCage]

If your not a middleweight than relinquish your belts - it's not a concession to fight at the actual weight limit you coward. I was never a fan of Canelo but the way he has been acting lately is pathetic. He's is conceding that he cant beat GGG at 160 and is trying his best to weaken him despite Canelo coming in over 160 at fight night.

GGG should wait till he relinquishes his belts, the boxing world will know who ran scared.