Byrd had a few good fights where he threw a ton of punches and danced around and now everyone thinks he is the most skilled heavyweight in years. I for one dont buy it. The guy is mediocre at best. He is lucky Wlad will even do him the favor of making him some money before he fades into oblivion. I also think U.S. fighters are nervous with the amount of eastern europeans coming into the sport. I bet there is alot of bias there.
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Why are so many pure boxers or former boxers picking Byrd over Wlad?
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I sort of agree to this because the deal on Wlad-Lewis was close, until Wlad lost to Sanders.
not sure where wlad fits into all this, because ll was already being pressed by the wbc to fight vk, or risk being stripped of the belt. and it was virtually the same situation after lewis/klitschko - lewis was once again risking losing his wbc crown instead of fighting vitali. i think wk losing to sanders had actually relieved lewis of having to fight wk for a huge payday megafight. i mean, there was a 20+ million dollar rematch with vitali that he elected not to take.
oh wait, lewis said he would fight wladimir after rematching vitali. whatever happened to that?
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Originally posted by jdo you mean a deal was close as in a megafight. if so, it should be noted that vitali was a mandatory for over a year before actually fighting lewis. and lewis wanted to wait even longer, except johnson had pulled out with a chest injury. lewis even wanted to fight tyson again before vk. even rjj got mentioned. kinda makes one think he ducking vitali because he knew vitali was more of a threat than the general population believed.
not sure where wlad fits into all this, because ll was already being pressed by the wbc to fight vk, or risk being stripped of the belt. and it was virtually the same situation after lewis/klitschko - lewis was once again risking losing his wbc crown instead of fighting vitali. i think wk losing to sanders had actually relieved lewis of having to fight wk for a huge payday megafight. i mean, there was a 20+ million dollar rematch with vitali that he elected not to take.
oh wait, lewis said he would fight wladimir after rematching vitali. whatever happened to that?
"i mean, there was a 20+ million dollar rematch with vitali that he elected not to take." - Exactly
As for Wlad, Lewis was going to fight him soon as he wanted to be the person who would beat both Klitschko's..that fight was not signed unfortunately because Wladimir lost to Corey Sanders by an embarassing 2nd round TKO, and everyone then wlad got exposed.
Lewis was out of his prime when he beat Vitali, I dont know what would a Prime Lewis do to him...Man I understand your a fan, Infact I admit I have been a bit harsh on Wladimir, and admit he has good skills and physical gift, but fighting guys who are out of there primes and cab drivers would'nt help his career.
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Originally posted by SoFlyyyBLOWN UP CRUISER. If that's the best win on Wlad's resume, need I say more?
and for the final time. WHO HAS DONE BETTER THAN WLAD?
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Originally posted by leffso if wlad aint good and byrd aint good and petet aint good who is rahman....toney?
and for the final time. WHO HAS DONE BETTER THAN WLAD?
Beaten: Ross Purrity - Who wlad lost to, Corey Sanders, Who wlad lost to, Trevor Berbick, Obed Sullivan, Pannell, Lewis, Barrett, Meehan, Toney, Calloway, Tua (In the second fight), & Holyfield.
The lewis win was pure luck though.
I think he is better than Wlad, and thats my honest opinion, When wlad beats Byrd, ill jump to the bandwagon and admit it, if he beats him fair that is, if its a robbery (germany is most known for bs decisions) then no he wont get respect.
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Originally posted by Parody
Beaten: Ross Purrity - Who wlad lost to, Corey Sanders, Who wlad lost to, Trevor Berbick, Obed Sullivan, Pannell, Lewis, Barrett, Meehan, Toney, Calloway, Tua (In the second fight), & Holyfield.
The lewis win was pure luck though.
I think he is better than Wlad, and thats my honest opinion, When wlad beats Byrd, ill jump to the bandwagon and admit it, if he beats him fair that is, if its a robbery (germany is most known for bs decisions) then no he wont get respect.
well,
he has more losses and has been knocked out cold several times(wlad has been tkoed).
holy was old
toney was a draw
purityis a journeyman
meehan and calloway aint special.
but all in all sure rahman has a pretty good resume
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Originally posted by Parody
Beaten: Ross Purrity - Who wlad lost to, Corey Sanders, Who wlad lost to, Trevor Berbick, Obed Sullivan, Pannell, Lewis, Barrett, Meehan, Toney, Calloway, Tua (In the second fight), & Holyfield.
The lewis win was pure luck though.
I think he is better than Wlad, and thats my honest opinion, When wlad beats Byrd, ill jump to the bandwagon and admit it, if he beats him fair that is, if its a robbery (germany is most known for bs decisions) then no he wont get respect.
LMFAO. He was completely dominated in that fight. Who is "Panell" and "Calloway".
Rock never beat Tua....in fact Tua was robbed in the Draw.
I suppose you could make the case for him beating Toney...but beating a fat middle aged bald man means nothing.
Obed? The fighting Marine? LOL.
Kali Meehan? The guy that Danny Williams K.O.'d in 30 Seconds?
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Originally posted by RunWithKnivesHow in the hell could you have came to the conclusion that Rock beat Holyfield?
LMFAO. He was completely dominated in that fight. Who is "Panell" and "Calloway".
Rock never beat Tua....in fact Tua was robbed in the Draw.
I suppose you could make the case for him beating Toney...but beating a fat middle aged bald man means nothing.
Obed? The fighting Marine? LOL.
Kali Meehan? The guy that Danny Williams K.O.'d in 30 Seconds?
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Originally posted by leffhis record is good but not better than wlads
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Originally posted by RunWithKnivesHow in the hell could you have came to the conclusion that Rock beat Holyfield?
LMFAO. He was completely dominated in that fight. Who is "Panell" and "Calloway".
Rock never beat Tua....in fact Tua was robbed in the Draw.
I suppose you could make the case for him beating Toney...but beating a fat middle aged bald man means nothing.
Obed? The fighting Marine? LOL.
Kali Meehan? The guy that Danny Williams K.O.'d in 30 Seconds?
You think Tua won that fighht?
Rock beat Tua in the second fight, the first fight was controversial because the referee did'nt give Rahman enough time to recover, and remember Rahman was one of the only people to Drop David Tua in late rounds...
I thought I could make a thread on Pannel and Calloway since you can praise Wlad for beating Jefferson and Nicholson
Toney would beat Wlad , I think he could have beaten Rahman too had he came in shape, but a fact is a fact, the fat penguin lost to someone who came in a good shape to fight.
Kali Meehan is the same guy who got robbed against Lamon Brewster.
The fact is Rock beat two guys who beat Wlad.
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