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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    Wilder took up boxing late. He won a bronze medal with barely any amateur background and beat a fighter for a title in the pros. Again.... He took up the sport late. So why the hate for wilder and the love for Jennings?
    Wilder has been boxing longer than Jennings and has more fights, both amateur and pro, though Jennings has fought better opponents than Wilder.

    But, if you read my comments again, I'm saying they are more or less on the same level now. If they fought each other, my money would be on Jennings, btw.

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      #32
      Originally posted by bigjavi973
      This is ******. He beat stiverne to that belt how is he some paper champion?

      Is he thee heavyweight champ? Well obviously not but he's far from a paper champ
      That's what "paper champion" means. He's some kinda champ on paper but not THE champ.

      You're free to like Wilder, but he is fighting on his own private circuit completely separate from the actual heavyweight title chase.

      A fight with povetkin would change that, give that belt a shred of legitimacy,
      Last edited by ////; 12-29-2015, 07:48 AM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        Unification fights > mandos

        Oh wait I guess that's only for a certain fighter that ya want to see unify
        povetkin has been waiting to start negotiating this fight since may and he actually worked hard and took risks to put himself in this position, unlike certain other fighters who are seemingly gifted high rankings and title shots out of the blue. on top of that, povetkin is a better fighter than martin and brings more money to the table than martin. there's only one possible reason wilder would elect to fight martin instead of povetkin and we all know what it is

        wilder-martin would be a fine fight after povetkin was taken care of

        i guess you are alluding to golovkin there, since everything seems to come back to him for the likes of you, and here's the difference: golovkin is chasing the best in his division while wilder is avoiding the best in his. stay on topic in future

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          #34
          Originally posted by Tobi.G
          Both Jennings and of course Fury are better than the flat footed out of shape Stiverne! And Szpilka in my oponion is the best opponent for Wilder yet, we might see a suprise. Zzpilka is young, fresh, he can move and **** a bit. People say hes nothing because he got knocked down by Mollo but look at fury, he got knocked down by light hitting Cunningham and has beaten Wlad.
          Szpilka is just 26 years old now. He should have improved now, just like Fury did.
          And everyone who thinks Jennings a bum needs to get banned from this Forum.
          BTW thats my current fiew of the heavyweight-landscape
          1. Fury

          2. Klitschko

          3. Povetkin

          4. Ortiz

          5. Wilder

          6. Pulev

          7. Joshua

          8. Jennings

          9. Szpilka

          10. Parker

          Also worth mentioning: Chagaev, Takam and maybe Ruiz Jr.
          Anthony Joshua is the future...beats all of them in a years time

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            #35
            Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
            I think Stivere is better than Jennings and Fury but we all know Wilders opponents don't count. While everyone else gets double credit no matter who they fight.
            You don't really think that though...

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              #36
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Wilder has been boxing longer than Jennings and has more fights, both amateur and pro, though Jennings has fought better opponents than Wilder.

              But, if you read my comments again, I'm saying they are more or less on the same level now. If they fought each other, my money would be on Jennings, btw.
              Wilder beats jenning because he has power and reach where is jenning is a good boxer who lacks the killer punch and also lacks physical size to compete with the top heavies...that will be the difference between the 2 if they faced off.....but kafkod it's all irrelevant in the end because joshua whips fury and wilder by the end of next year .....I have not met another Englishman who said fury looked good or the fight with klitchko was worthy of a world title fight....everybody I know says it was terrible

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                #37
                Originally posted by Tobi.G
                Both Jennings and of course Fury are better than the flat footed out of shape Stiverne! And Szpilka in my oponion is the best opponent for Wilder yet, we might see a suprise. Zzpilka is young, fresh, he can move and **** a bit. People say hes nothing because he got knocked down by Mollo but look at fury, he got knocked down by light hitting Cunningham and has beaten Wlad.
                Szpilka is just 26 years old now. He should have improved now, just like Fury did.
                And everyone who thinks Jennings a bum needs to get banned from this Forum.
                BTW thats my current fiew of the heavyweight-landscape
                1. Fury

                2. Klitschko

                3. Povetkin

                4. Ortiz

                5. Wilder

                6. Pulev

                7. Joshua

                8. Jennings

                9. Szpilka

                10. Parker

                Also worth mentioning: Chagaev, Takam and maybe Ruiz Jr.
                Your rankings are mostly fine but Szpilka is terrible. Being Wilder's best opponent wouldn't be much but he's not even that.

                Very lethargic fighter who posts his left hand a lot and throws single punches. TKO'd by Jennings. In other words, the usual.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Steve plunger
                  Wilder beats jenning because he has power and reach where is jenning is a good boxer who lacks the killer punch and also lacks physical size to compete with the top heavies...that will be the difference between the 2 if they faced off.....but kafkod it's all irrelevant in the end because joshua whips fury and wilder by the end of next year .....I have not met another Englishman who said fury looked good or the fight with klitchko was worthy of a world title fight....everybody I know says it was terrible
                  Obviously the people you know, English or otherwise, DKSAB. You can listen to them if you like, just don't put any of your money where their mouths are re Fury, or you will lose it!

                  Re AJ, he's a great prospect and could probably beat Wilder right now. But after the scare he got vs Whyte his team have realised he isn't ready for the likes of Tyson Fury yet and are going to keep him at domestic and Euro level for at least another year.

                  Jennings has a longer reach than Wilder, btw, 84 ins to Wilder's 83 ins. Fury's reach is 85 ins, the longest in boxing.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 12-29-2015, 09:34 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Obviously the people you know, English or otherwise, DKSAB. You can listen to them if you like, just don't put any of your money where their mouths are re Fury, or you will lose it!

                    Re AJ, he's a great prospect and could probably beat Wilder right now. But after the scare he got vs Whyte his team have realised he isn't ready for the likes of Tyson Fury yet and are going to keep him at domestic and Euro level for at least another year.
                    The same guy your talking about is fury who was knocked down by a cruiser weight Cunningham and the fury who actually punched himself with an uppercut lol...come kafkod look at what fury really is ....no punch..terrible balance ...boxing skill all over the show...the performace that fury put on against klitchko would not happen to joshua.....Joshua would beat fury now....I see nothing in furys game that beats a hungry joshua......whye I think if he landed that same left on furys chin and it would be good night I have no doubt about that....fair play to fury winning the title but I see no future for him holding the belt against a wilder or joshua if thay face off next year....we disagree on how good fury is I'm affraid.....fury has already been busted up and beaten by joshua when they sparred and that's coming from a close friend who boxed at the same gym as fury when he was preparing for chisora rematch...I respect your opinion but we're deffo gonna be talking if they do face off with each other in the future....I'll take joshua by KO

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      Obviously the people you know, English or otherwise, DKSAB. You can listen to them if you like, just don't put any of your money where their mouths are re Fury, or you will lose it!

                      Re AJ, he's a great prospect and could probably beat Wilder right now. But after the scare he got vs Whyte his team have realised he isn't ready for the likes of Tyson Fury yet and are going to keep him at domestic and Euro level for at least another year.

                      Jennings has a longer reach than Wilder, btw, 84 ins to Wilder's 83 ins. Fury's reach is 85 ins, the longest in boxing.
                      Il bet you all the amount I have on this account on joshua beating fury....I'll also privately wager with you on real money say £100 on joshua beating fury....no problem for me...I know boxing and when I see a talent I'm willing to put money on it

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