Regarding Catch-weights & Drained Fighters

[sparkman0811]

Regarding catch-weights, have the results of bringing a guy down in weight ever been positive for the "drained" fighter. This is to say, has the guy being brought down in weight ever won? Was just thinking about this and I can't think of any example of this in the past couple of years.

[pacmanis1]

Been wondering that myself. Closest I can think of is Chavez and Fonfara but not many people were giving Chavez a chance anyway so I don't know if that counts. That fight was more about Chavez finally fighting someone his own size vs Fonfara being weight drained.

[boxingsupreme87]

Wasn't Pac-Marquez IV at a catchweight? Or was that fight #3?

[sparkman0811]

Wasn't Pac-Marquez IV at a catchweight? Or was that fight #3?

Something along those lines. Wanna say Pacquiao camp was really trying to milk the notion that Marquez didn't belong at Welter. But, I wouldn't really consider that example, since neither guy was really drained, as a result, and are not really welters to begin.

[sparkman0811]

Been wondering that myself. Closest I can think of is Chavez and Fonfara but not many people were giving Chavez a chance anyway so I don't know if that counts. That fight was more about Chavez finally fighting someone his own size vs Fonfara being weight drained.

Yes, this is a good one. Chavez bit off more then he could chew, poetic justice. Trying to drain the guy, but it backfired.

[Dinamita 03]

B-hop against Pavlik/ODH

[Furn]

The fighter being drained is always the B side and therefore usually the underdog so you can't put it down to weight necessarily but guys do seem to under perform which you would expect.

[Luilun]

Regarding catch-weights, have the results of bringing a guy down in weight ever been positive for the "drained" fighter. This is to say, has the guy being brought down in weight ever won? Was just thinking about this and I can't think of any example of this in the past couple of years.

Funny how everyone including FloydTurds think the drain fighter is the one getting phucked and weakened except when Canelo fought Floyd I bet Floyd would never fight him at 154. Cannel would steam roll his a$$ thats why they fought so hard to have a catch weight. But Of course you will have idiots that will say it wouldn't matter if it didn't matter than why make the fight at 152 ?

[!! Shawn]

There is a simple solution to the problem, Weight limits should be respected, and fighters should have to drink a predetermined amount of fluids x amount of hours before the weighin, and have a doctor certify that they are properly hydrated. The catch weights, and dehydrating to squeeze down to 3 divisions below where you will be in the ring is getting more and more ridiculous.

Fighter would be forced to actually lose real weight to fight in lower divisions, or god forbid, fight in their actual division, and we would get to see two fighters of the same weight fighting each other.

Everyone weighting in at the absolute max limit of the division these days is dumb. Back in the days, middleweights, weighed in between 147 and 160lb, in the ring before the fight, and you knew thats what they weighed during the fight.

[The Big Dunn]

There is a simple solution to the problem, Weight limits should be respected, and fighters should have to drink a predetermined amount of fluids x amount of hours before the weighin, and have a doctor certify that they are properly hydrated. The catch weights, and dehydrating to squeeze down to 3 divisions below where you will be in the ring is getting more and more ridiculous.

Fighter would be forced to actually lose real weight to fight in lower divisions, or god forbid, fight in their actual division, and we would get to see two fighters of the same weight fighting each other.

Everyone weighting in at the absolute max limit of the division these days is dumb. Back in the days, middleweights, weighed in between 147 and 160lb, in the ring before the fight, and you knew thats what they weighed during the fight.

Good post. I think it's also time to readjust weights for each division. We have the same weight classes as 100 years ago despite the growth in average size of a human being. Olympics have adjusted weights for combat sports, Olympic boxing has had 2 or 3 changes in weight limits.