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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — Far From Perfect But Far From Done

    by David P. Greisman - Fighters who have been defeated aren’t necessarily left at a loss. Few retire unbeaten. Nearly all go on with their careers after suffering their first blemish, or a second, or a third. Many find a way to thrive afterward.

    This isn’t a grand revelation. The heavyweight champion, Wladimir Klitschko, fought a month ago, notching his 18th straight successful title defense in a reign that began after he’d suffered his third loss by technical knockout. Canelo Alvarez, who lost a clear decision in 2013, drew more than 31,000 people for his fight two weeks ago and pulled in the biggest rating for boxing on HBO since 2006.

    This past Friday brought Alexander Povetkin his third straight knockout and earned him another shot at the heavyweight title, an opportunity that comes after a lopsided loss to Klitschko in one of the most aesthetically dreadful heavyweight title fights ever. The next day had James DeGale, who’d come up short against fellow prospect George Groves back in 2011, win a vacant super middleweight title by topping Andre Dirrell, who had lost a split decision to Carl Froch in 2009.

    And the next handful of weeks will see several fighters get a major spotlight, competing in bouts where wins could propel them to heights that may have seemed unreachable when they were at their lowest points. (There’ll be more on some of those bouts later on in this column.) [Click Here To Read More]
  • Mr.Daddy
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    Stevenson may be the man who beat the man in light heavyweight, but he certainly is not the best light heavyweight as that man is Sergey Kovalev.

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    • glenn mcrory
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      #3
      Originally posted by Mr.Daddy
      Stevenson may be the man who beat the man in light heavyweight, but he certainly is not the best light heavyweight as that man is Sergey Kovalev.
      Don't tell them that...
      This is a site that has pictures of Stevenson and Hopkins on their links at the top of the page but not one of Kovalev lol

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      • LacedUp
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        Originally posted by Mr.Daddy
        Stevenson may be the man who beat the man in light heavyweight, but he certainly is not the best light heavyweight as that man is Sergey Kovalev.
        Well we can only know for sure when they fight. Kovalev's best win is Hopkins. But Stevensson beat the man who beat Hopkins easily, in seconds.

        So let's see what happens when they fight.

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        • BennyST
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          Was that list of fighters meant to be all undefeated? Lomachenko lost his second or third fight, if that's the case. Wasn't entirely sure.

          Either way, great article as usual David.

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          • Y0@NN
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            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Well we can only know for sure when they fight. Kovalev's best win is Hopkins. But Stevensson beat the man who beat Hopkins easily, in seconds.
            Yes but Kovalev just beat the man who beat the man who beat Hopkins.

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            • Mr. David
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              #7
              Originally posted by BennyST
              Was that list of fighters meant to be all undefeated? Lomachenko lost his second or third fight, if that's the case. Wasn't entirely sure.

              Either way, great article as usual David.
              A brain fart made even worse by the fact that I was at ringside for Salido-Lomachenko. Thanks for catching that and for the good words, Benny.

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              • wlliam
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                "Khanis biding his time, waiting for a title shot" while turning down, not one but TWO title shots since Dec. 2013. While being rated highly at welter without having faced a current top welter, at the same time being rated higher than fellow welters who have beaten better comp

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                • cabalas
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                  I don't get impressed because a boxer has an undefeated record. That doesn't necessarily mean supremacy. Not only boxers pad their records picking weak or easier rivals but also there has been many instances where they escape with controversial decisions. From the list of "lineal champs" given, I can easily think that Floyd should have a defeat against Castillo (although he won clearly the rematch) as well as a DQ defeat against Judah (his uncle got into the ring to attack Zab). Also Garcia shouldn't be undefeated since he really lost against Mauricio Herrera. And to make things worse he barely escaped with another controversial decision in his last fight with Peterson.
                  But even with one or two defeats Floyd should be at the top of the list. While Garcia, Cotto and even Stevenson to certain extent are questionable as being real "lineal" champions.

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