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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Drama Show Not Limited To The Ring

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Fighter A has two middleweight belts and a following. Fighter B has a super middleweight belt and a reputation. Given those realities, it seems simple that adding Fighter A to Fighter B would yield Fight C.

    But this, friends, is boxing. The sport that logic has long forgot.

    And when it comes to the commodity known as “Triple-G,” nothing comes easy.

    Within moments of the referee wave-off that ended Gennady Golovkin’s sixth-round erasure of an outgunned Willie Monroe Jr. on Saturday night in suburban Los Angeles, the familiar refrain from fans and a smitten HBO broadcast crew called for more of the same, but with bigger names. [Click Here To Read More]
  • mabulkhair
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    After cleaning out the div...then triple G should move up to 168. Triple G is not really a huge middleweight anyway probably walks around 166. Ward's next fight is at 172 idk if he can make 168 anymore. No financial incentive either...Ward fought 3 times in the last 4 years compared to triple G who has fought 13 times. I understand Ward's level of comp has been better but after the super six Ward was idle fought a Dawson who was knocked out by Stevenson and fought an unknown Rodriguez. Golovkin is the A side now not Ward. I mean Ward fighting on BET and triple G is fighting on HBO that should tell you everything!

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    • mabulkhair
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      Typo

      Meant to say fought a drained Dawson who came down from 175. Dawson fought Stevenson afterwards.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #4
        Originally posted by mabulkhair
        After cleaning out the div...then triple G should move up to 168. Triple G is not really a huge middleweight anyway probably walks around 166. Ward's next fight is at 172 idk if he can make 168 anymore. No financial incentive either...Ward fought 3 times in the last 4 years compared to triple G who has fought 13 times. I understand Ward's level of comp has been better but after the super six Ward was idle fought a Dawson who was knocked out by Stevenson and fought an unknown Rodriguez. Golovkin is the A side now not Ward. I mean Ward fighting on BET and triple G is fighting on HBO that should tell you everything!
        -Fight night weight for Golovkin was apparently 170; he probably walks around near 180 when not in camp.

        -Ward's next fight is at 172 because 1)he's been out of the ring 19 months come fight night, 2)the fight is a non-title bout, so he didn't have to make 168, and 3)172 gives him a good gauge of where his body is, while also not having him really worry about making weight [if gets to to 172 easy, his next fight is at 168 and defending his title; if he has to go through hell to get to 172, he moves up to light heavyweight].

        -Andre Ward fought three times in four years, making ~$5m in disclosed fight purses (without counting any residual money from those fights or his sponsorship checks for Jordan brand/Everlast/Shoe Palace). Golovkin fought 13 times and maybe made $5m in purses.

        Andre Ward fights Paul Smith in Oakland, come June, likely in front of a paid crowd of +10,000, with his fight likely seen by about as many folks who tuned in to see Golovkin (and he'll likely walk away, again, with a nicer payday than Golovkin).

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        • SlySlickSmooth
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          Golovkin needs to do a show in NorCal... I get he can sell with the Mexicans in LA, but come see if he can sellout Oracle.

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          • Barcham
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            #6
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            -Fight night weight for Golovkin was apparently 170; he probably walks around near 180 when not in camp.

            -Ward's next fight is at 172 because 1)he's been out of the ring 19 months come fight night, 2)the fight is a non-title bout, so he didn't have to make 168, and 3)172 gives him a good gauge of where his body is, while also not having him really worry about making weight [if gets to to 172 easy, his next fight is at 168 and defending his title; if he has to go through hell to get to 172, he moves up to light heavyweight].

            -Andre Ward fought three times in four years, making ~$5m in disclosed fight purses (without counting any residual money from those fights or his sponsorship checks for Jordan brand/Everlast/Shoe Palace). Golovkin fought 13 times and maybe made $5m in purses.

            Andre Ward fights Paul Smith in Oakland, come June, likely in front of a paid crowd of +10,000, with his fight likely seen by about as many folks who tuned in to see Golovkin (and he'll likely walk away, again, with a nicer payday than Golovkin).
            Ward in front of a crowd of 10k plus? Are you delusional? The guy could not sell out the Stubhub in his prime and that holds less than 9k, except for GGG when they have to add seating room. And you think a fight on BET, a fringe cable network with a limited targeted audience, will hit over 1.5 million viewers? It will be lucky to hit 250 thousand.

            Ward is irrelevant in today's boxing world. He is less than an after thought. He is an afterthought's afterthought. He is fighting a nobody after 18 months of sitting on his ass playing commentator. No major network wanted to air his fights. He should have come back directly into a SMW title fight but he is fighting at a 172 catchweight instead of defending the title that should have long been stripped from him.

            He is an embarrassment to the sport of boxing.

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              #7
              Originally posted by mabulkhair
              After cleaning out the div...then triple G should move up to 168. Triple G is not really a huge middleweight anyway probably walks around 166. Ward's next fight is at 172 idk if he can make 168 anymore. No financial incentive either...Ward fought 3 times in the last 4 years compared to triple G who has fought 13 times. I understand Ward's level of comp has been better but after the super six Ward was idle fought a Dawson who was knocked out by Stevenson and fought an unknown Rodriguez. Golovkin is the A side now not Ward. I mean Ward fighting on BET and triple G is fighting on HBO that should tell you everything!
              Quit while you are ahead. GGG probably walks around at 166 - very funny - Ward is fighting at 172 because he can no longer make 168 - even funnier and Ward is fighting on BET so he has a chance to grab some sponsors instead of fighting on a subscription based network - the facts are GGG walks into the ring weighing between 170 and 173 ish - Ward is the same height and walks into the ring weighing 175-178ish they are usually 5 pds away from each other on fight night. Ward can still make the 168pd limit, but smart fighter who has been out the ring close to 2 years should make himself weak for a non title tune up fight. Work your way back down to your division. As far as the networks go - HBO probably didn't approve of his opponent - he still is a HBO fighter

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              • Mr.Daddy
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                Originally posted by Barcham
                Ward in front of a crowd of 10k plus? Are you delusional? The guy could not sell out the Stubhub in his prime and that holds less than 9k, except for GGG when they have to add seating room. And you think a fight on BET, a fringe cable network with a limited targeted audience, will hit over 1.5 million viewers? It will be lucky to hit 250 thousand.

                Ward is irrelevant in today's boxing world. He is less than an after thought. He is an afterthought's afterthought. He is fighting a nobody after 18 months of sitting on his ass playing commentator. No major network wanted to air his fights. He should have come back directly into a SMW title fight but he is fighting at a 172 catchweight instead of defending the title that should have long been stripped from him.

                He is an embarrassment to the sport of boxing.
                I don't disagree with most of what you've written, but if you haven't heard, Kathy Duva of Main Events said that they are in negotiations with Roc Nation Sports looking to have a Sergey Kovalev vs Andre Ward fight sometime in 2016.
                It will be interesting to see if they get a fight set for 2016.

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                • vitali1999
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                  First of all article editor take your head out of your as$. Watching ggg vs Son of Satan would be like ggg versus gay weather, most nobody wants to see dancing with the stars, we want a fight, son of satan, just like gay weather hasn't knocked anybody out since 2009. Decisions are lame and boring in case you didn't know. Plus 168 is to big for ggg just like 175 is to. big for Chavez. They made weight classes for a reason. Look at all the top 168 pounders, they are all over 6 foot. Ggg is 5"10. Middleweight is were he belongs.

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                    Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
                    Golovkin needs to do a show in NorCal... I get he can sell with the Mexicans in LA, but come see if he can sellout Oracle.
                    well theres a *** TON of asians in the bay area,,so with toradolquiao being out of the game i can definintely see more ggg fans in that area

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