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    by Cliff Rold - In the 00s, a pair of brutal warriors gave us a brutal trilogy. There were no titles on the line. They didn’t need any.

    It was the defining rivalry of the decade at 140 lbs.

    Does Jr. Welterweight have its heir to Arturo Gatti-Mickey Ward this weekend? It has some of the same ingredients and a few that rivalry didn’t. Both men make good fights; they can both punch.

    Unlike Gatti-Ward, this isn’t a rivalry of men at the end or even past their primes. We could see a brief, explosive affair, a war of attrition, or a slow building war.

    It’s almost impossible to think anything we see will be disappointing on HBO Saturday night (9:45 PM EST/PST).

    Of the two, Matthysse is the more technically developed fighter. He’s got a better jab, throws from more unorthodox angles, and works off the counter better.

    Will any of that matter?

    Matthysse may be more technically sound, but he’s ultimately a puncher. It’s his bread and butter. It’s what bailed him out last year against John Molina. It’s what made him appear to be the most fearsome man at 140 until Danny Garcia came along.

    He’s not going to get on his toes and make Provodnikov chase him like Chris Algieri did. He’s not going to sit in the pocket and pick away at the Russian, outboxing him intelligently like Mauricio Herrera. [Click Here To Read More]

  • #2
    This grading isn't good at all, both men lack defense, Ruslan has more speed, Ruslan should have a bit more power than that, and both men should have lower intangibles.

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    • #3
      i just dont see the provodnikov pick, he doesnt look natural throwing punches, it looks like is takes him so much effort to throw punches, and when he steps forward its like a free buffet, cause no way can he counter a lead puncher it looks like he needs gaps to throw. mathysee can box him if he steps back he'll have time to do that he could win every round.

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      • #4
        Cliff is normally pretty good at previews, I suppose he's entitled to his opinion

        What he's forgetting is Ruslan a warrior that he is, will fight in spurts yes he has a good chin but the body work by Lucas will freeze Ruslan even more


        I am a fan of Lucas slightly biased but I think he wins this fight rather comfortably!

        He will box but will fight when he has too! Ruslan has a window of 5 rounds to stop him, then he will fade physically I don't the mans will but Lucas is a very power puncher

        Lucas late stoppage rounds 9-12 or a clear decision win for Lucas

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        • #5
          I respect both fighters... I do want to root for one.............. But its impossible so I will root for a blood, a lot of it. I want to see the most brutal fight in human history.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Golovkin View Post
            I respect both fighters... I do want to root for one.............. But its impossible so I will root for a blood, a lot of it. I want to see the most brutal fight in human history.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by knockoutkid View Post
              i just dont see the provodnikov pick, he doesnt look natural throwing punches, it looks like is takes him so much effort to throw punches, and when he steps forward its like a free buffet, cause no way can he counter a lead puncher it looks like he needs gaps to throw. mathysee can box him if he steps back he'll have time to do that he could win every round.
              lucas is my boy but this is a 50/50 fight simply because we've never seen either guy face this particular style matchup, this is essentially a dream match

              provo's chin is a question mark, we've seen lucas dropped but he's never been in trouble after getting dropped and has always gotten up to finish the fight strong

              lucas has never really been made to go backwards, so it'll be interesting to see which guy imposes his style on the other guy

              i think lucas has more tools, he can slip and counter, he can roll punches, he knows how to clinch, he's cagey (watch the peterson fight where he picked up Lamont and threw him against the ropes)

              ruslan has the handspeed advantage but they aren't straight punches, they're primarily left and right hooks so those are easier to block or slip

              i picked lucas but it's a coin toss, we'll see who the real casual fans are after this fight when they talk **** about the guy who lost, saying he's a bum, was never good, etc. lol

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              • #8
                Provo's more a grinder than a power puncher and has about the same power as Molina but Mathysse has way more power than Alvarado. It sucks really bad that Mathysse isn't getting another title shot. The kid really deserves it and deserves a gigantic payday even more. I see a replay of Mathyssse vs Molina here.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by damit305 View Post


                  Stop ***ually harassing me.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Golovkin View Post
                    Stop ***ually harassing me.
                    Disgusting.

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