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Did Felix Trinidad have plaster hand wraps when he fought Fernando Vargas in 2000?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by BoxingLegend89' View Post
    ahahaha mexicans (chicanos, not the real mexicans) couldnt beat tito in the ring so they trash his name outside the ring while ignoring and supporting the fact that a mexican cheater (margarito) was actually suspended and his trainer banned for life.

    Wasnt Vargas on PEDs? lol.... the irony of calling some1 a cheater.

    I bet 90% of the ppl here talking sh8t have never had their hands wrapped. yall dont even know what extra gauze and tape feels like. pshhh
    im nothing close to being mexican and even i wonder at times if tito and his fathers illegal tactics contributed to some of his wins, if not all. you gotta wonder sometimes...

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    • #52
      I voted "maybe." After reading this article I want to change my answer to "yes."

      Vargas grew su****ious after Bernard Hopkins' trainer Naazim Richardson noticed the extra amounts of gauze being applied to Trinidad's hand wraps.

      "Before I fought Trinidad, I went to Puerto Rico on the press tour, and in Puerto Rico, a guy who had been a part of Trinidad's team told me, 'You've got to watch out for his hand wraps,'" Vargas remembered. "I didn't really understand what he meant by that at the time. But then when I felt his punch and his power, I was like, 'This s---'s not human.' So that's when I figured out what happened to me. I just know that there was something crazy with his hand wraps."

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      • #53
        More from the article:

        Vargas' opinion is just that-an opinion-but it's impossible to deny the deleterious effects that Trinidad's hands, whether wrapped legally or not, had on him. He fought only 10 more times, losing four (three by TKO), and retired before his 30th birthday.

        "Honestly, I think that fight did take something out of me physically," Vargas acknowledged. "I never got hurt before that fight, but after that fight, the punches started taking their effects quick."

        Source: http://www.hbo.com/boxing/inside/dec...decade-.html#/
        Last edited by punchr; 04-18-2015, 02:01 AM.

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        • #54
          Trinidad agrees that Vargas was never the same fighter after he got done with him.

          "It is a matter of comparison," Trinidad said. "You can see Vargas was different. There was one Vargas before fighting me. There was another Vargas after that fight. I'm sure that if Vargas never fought me, and he fought against all the fighters that he fought after me, Vargas could have beaten all of them. He could have knocked all of them out-De La Hoya, Shane Mosley-if he had never fought me."

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          • #55
            Wow. Very interesting. I am pro-PEDs and pro-plaster, so I really dont mind. I'm a dirty ****er myself so Im not going to be a hypocrite. When it comes to fighting, everything goes imo. But interesting nonetheless, I like controversies like this, they are fun to dig thru. I watched this fight when I was like 12, good times. I used to do the Vargas duckface pose in every photo lol.

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            • #56
              Trinidad had to rewrap his hands for Hopkins because New York has different rules and doesn't allow as much tape and gauze as most places. The way Trinidad wrapped his hands for Hopkins is legal in most of the world. It had NOTHING to do with plaster and has no similarity to the Margarito affair at all. Trinidad hits extremely hard because he has fast hands and great leverage on his punches because of perfect technique. The way he wraps his hands has nothing to do with his punching power. He is just a very hard puncher and a better fighter than Vargas who was also a great fighter.

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              • #57
                I can't believe he lost to Mayorga lol

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                • #58
                  maybe puerto rican are known bottom feeders and cheaters.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by punchr View Post
                    I voted "maybe." After reading this article I want to change my answer to "yes."

                    Vargas grew su****ious after Bernard Hopkins' trainer Naazim Richardson noticed the extra amounts of gauze being applied to Trinidad's hand wraps.

                    "Before I fought Trinidad, I went to Puerto Rico on the press tour, and in Puerto Rico, a guy who had been a part of Trinidad's team told me, 'You've got to watch out for his hand wraps,'" Vargas remembered. "I didn't really understand what he meant by that at the time. But then when I felt his punch and his power, I was like, 'This s---'s not human.' So that's when I figured out what happened to me. I just know that there was something crazy with his hand wraps."
                    That's Vargas' excuse for the lose. The rules of boxing call for a member of Vargas' team and a member of the boxing commission to be present when Trinidad wraps his hands so if he cheated he had to cheat right in front of their eyes. The same thing applies to Cotto in his lose to Margarito. Richardson caught both Trinidad and Margarito by being there when they wrapped their hands because the rules of boxing say he is supposed to be there. These same rules were in effect in both the Trinidad-Vargas fight and the Margarito-Cotto fights and nobody complained about their wraps before the fight. Why not? Maybe because they did nothing illegal,

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                      at least know the difference. ****m said that they wrapped tito's hand the wrong way. NSAC agreed. Funny. The way that trinidad wrapped his sons hands where done in front of the NYSAC and they deemed it legal.

                      Plasterito on the other hand was caught dead with ILLEGAL inserts that were as hard as rocks.

                      Tito = no suspension or anything + in the IBHOF

                      Plasterito = Suspended + not gonna get in the hof.

                      FACTS!
                      I bet a Mexican started.this bull****,,,, there was an article.by ****m saying the way Tito wrapped.his hands against b.hop was only illegal in NY , it was legal in many other states including las Vegas,,,, Tito always had razor sharp.accuracy and tagged ppl.right on the chin

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