i don't get why hbo hasn't done what al haymon is doing now.

[mrlopez]

they should have done that a long time ago.

they did, and hbo was putting on expensive gaymon showcase bs fights. they got smart, kicked the ******boy lover off hbo and put the highest rated shows on tv.

[Eastcoast]

HBO boxing could actually benefit from Haymon's move. If the PBC generates new national interest in the sport, and HBO still has some of the best fighters in the business, then their ratings will increase, and presumably their subscriptions as well.

This actually happened for a short while in mma. The UFC was generating a ton of interest in the sport, but they didn't have some of the best fighters in the world like Fedor. As a result Fedor's earnings went to an all time high because there was new and growing interest in his fights. Of course then he got old and started losing.

[sicko]

HBO subscribers still exist for Game Of Thrones, Broardwalk Empire and their other Original Programming to be honest. It is not because of Boxing nor is it for the Movies they show which most of them you can watch at anytime on Netflix or any other Streaming Sites/Apps.

HBO been able to get fights for CHEAP on HBO even heard Max Kellerman talk about how with the Way Haymon does things it makes it difficult now for a Network like HBO get Fight at Affordable Prices.

HBO, Arum they want guys like Al Haymon and Cameron Dunkin out of the way because they're the type of Managers who actually DO THEIR JOB compared to others who just take what ever is offered to them and their Client for the Quick Money.

HBO will never invest in boxing as much as Haymon has, they depend on Promoters like Arum and Oscar to continue to "NEED THEIR NETWORK". They maybe pick a few fighters they want regularly on their Network but that is about it.

[Mitchell Kane]

HBO boxing could actually benefit from Haymon's move. If the PBC generates new national interest in the sport, and HBO still has some of the best fighters in the business, then their ratings will increase, and presumably their subscriptions as well.

This actually happened for a short while in mma. The UFC was generating a ton of interest in the sport, but they didn't have some of the best fighters in the world like Fedor. As a result Fedor's earnings went to an all time high because there was new and growing interest in his fights. Of course then he got old and started losing.

I think one benefit to HBO might be these PBC broadcasts taking guys like Thurman, Guerrero, Garcia and Broner off SHO for significant periods of time.

SHO is still HBO's main competitor, not NBC...at least not until the PBC proves that networks like NBC and CBS and ESPN are a viable option for HBO and SHO level fights.

Guys like Garcia and Broner did some of SHO's best ratings, and they're not even on SHO's schedule for maybe the first half of the year.

SHO does have Chavez Jr. on their schedule, and that fight might do big ratings for SHO, but there's not that much else at the moment.

[JulianQ]

Boxing on National TV makes allot is sense. You can make more money from advertising revenue than you can from PPV buys.

The rate the network can charge for a 30 second advert depends on the number of viewers. A big event like the Superbowl has a massive audience so they can charge million dollar rates per 30 seconds.
A smaller boxing card with a few hundred thousand viewers might only command a fee of maybe $50,000 and you can only air a limited amount of adverts per fight.
Of course the numbers rise as you book big names but they come at a bigger purse... and when they get too big they move to PPV.

It's complicated.

[Scipio2009]

they should have done that a long time ago.

HBO is unwilling to commit the money to boxing to do such a thing; they've been trading off of their status as the "de-facto home of top boxing" for far to long.

Say what you want about Espinoza and his tenure, but CBS has shown that they are willing to commit the type of resources to boxing to make a run at things.

HBO needs to adapt or fade away.