Lewis/Wlad/Hopkins all came back from defeats. So why doubting Broner?

[richardt]

No. That's dumb. Broner don't need to 'drop' anything to consent to slavery status. You are telling him to give up on his culture to box in a way that others want to box?
Duran partied and killed horses and still managed to become an ATG.
Leonard was partying like crazy.
Lewis was partying too.

Man they all drank and lived it up and all champs.

Broner needs to BE HIMSELF. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOCIETY TODAY. THEY MAKING YOU NOT BE YOURSELF.

Broner needs to just be himself. Maidana didn't expose Broner.
Maidana was a styles nightmare for Broner.

Frazier whooped on Ali. Is Ali 'bad'? Frazier and Maidana are the same as Broner and Ali.

Broner and Ali>than Frazier and Maidana but styles make fights.

You missed the point. When fighters start partying, that's when things fall apart. Since when did it become a loss of one's culture to be 100% dedicated to Boxing? Where did I say Broner needs to "box in a way that others want to box"??? Are you taking something or drinking something?

Broner went overboard and the overconfidence may have cost him. But the point remains, the Quintero, PDL, Pauli, and Maidana fights do not illustrate the next big thing, Floyd's successor. That hype is gone. He can be a champ but there is a huge gamut between being a champ and true greatness, that latter of which is simply not destined for, even though some were fooled into thinkingthat, they no longer are. Nothing wrong with just becoming a champ, if he can.

[JasonBoxing]

You missed the point. When fighters start partying, that's when things fall apart. Since when did it become a loss of one's culture to be 100% dedicated to Boxing? Broner went overboard and the overconfidence may have cost him. But the point remains, the Quintero, PDL, Pauli, and Maidana fights do not illustrate the next big thing, Floyd's successor. That hype is gone. He can be a champ but there is a huge gamut between being a champ and true greatness, that latter of which is simply not destined for, even though some were fooled into thinking. Nothing wrong with just becoming a champ, if he can.

Ali never lost his culture when he became a champ. His culture is Black Rights and Pride. Broner's culture is ****** thug and partying. To you that might seem DUMB. But to Broner? Being a ****** representor is quite important. You do realize that he's a hero to most African Americans right?

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As others have pointed out, he just wasn't and isn't that good. Good entertainer in and out the ring, but just not an elite fighter.

[richardt]

Ali never lost his culture when he became a champ. His culture is Black Rights and Pride. Broner's culture is ****** thug and partying. To you that might seem DUMB. But to Broner? Being a ****** representor is quite important. You do realize that he's a hero to most African Americans right?

I didn't mention anything about him not representing where he comes from, his ****** connection/persona. I did not make any reference to that, that's you projecting. Partying is not a culture, continuous partying and doing club appearances takes away from being dedicated to the sport. And fighters do pay for it whether they are ATG or just contenders or former champs like Broner.

BUT, earlier you said:

"Broner needs to BE HIMSELF. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOCIETY TODAY. THEY MAKING YOU NOT BE YOURSELF."

Is this some kind of a joke???? Broner IS THE ONE who tried to imitate Floyd!!!! His shoulder roll, his choking an opponent at the weigh-in, his making racial slurs, etc., etc to be just like his big brother!! How is him trying to copy Floyd called "being himself"??!!! Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Did SOCIETY make Broner try to imitate Floyd instead of being himself??!!

[JasonBoxing]

I didn't mention anything about him not representing where he comes from, his ****** connection/persona. I did not make any reference to that, that's you projecting. Partying is not a culture, continuous partying and doing club appearances takes away from being dedicated to the sport. And fighters do pay for it whether they are ATG or just contenders or former champs like Broner.

BUT, earlier you said:

"Broner needs to BE HIMSELF. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOCIETY TODAY. THEY MAKING YOU NOT BE YOURSELF."

Is this some kind of a joke???? Broner IS THE ONE who tried to imitate Floyd!!!! His shoulder roll, his choking an opponent at the weigh-in, his making racial slurs, etc., etc to be just like his big brother!! How is him trying to copy Floyd called "being himself"??!!! Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Did SOCIETY make Broner try to imitate Floyd instead of being himself??!!

Broner never tried to imitate Floyd. Is that a joke?

Broner to Floyd is like Wlad to Lewis. They look same but they different.
Floyd was NEVER as offensive as Broner and he never went toe to toe the way Broner does. The ONLY thing they have in common is the shoulder roll.

That's like saying Tyson is trying to imitate Frazier because they both bob and weave.

Broner was and is his own man.

[Bushbaby]

When was the last time Broner fought someone worth a damn??

[Mr. Philadel]

The Lion, The Steelhammer and the Legend were more skilled and dedicated than The Problem....I don't doubt Broner though, the kid has talent and heart...just need to get his head right and start taking the sport serious before somebody like Lucas or even John Molina hurts him badly....I'm on the train but I know this mutha****a can wreck on any night against any fighter who can punch #100

[richardt]

Broner never tried to imitate Floyd. Is that a joke?

Broner to Floyd is like Wlad to Lewis. They look same but they different.
Floyd was NEVER as offensive as Broner and he never went toe to toe the way Broner does. The ONLY thing they have in common is the shoulder roll.

That's like saying Tyson is trying to imitate Frazier because they both bob and weave.

Broner was and is his own man.

Dude, you are ***ing delusional! Everyone on these boards has mentioned how Broner has tried to copy Floyd!

Floyd does the shoulder roll, Broner does the shoulder roll.

Floyd chokes Ortiz neck at the weigh in, Broner chokes Perez's neck at the weigh in.

Floyd burns money, Broner flushes it.

Floyd goes on a racist rant, Broner goes on a racist rant.

Etc, etc.

Pull your ***ing head out of your ass!!

[Caught Square]

Dude, you are ***ing delusional! Everyone on these boards has mentioned how Broner has tried to copy Floyd!

Floyd does the shoulder roll, Broner does the shoulder roll.

Floyd chokes Ortiz neck at the weigh in, Broner chokes Perez's neck at the weigh in.

Floyd burns money, Broner flushes it.

Floyd goes on a racist rant, Broner goes on a racist rant.

Etc, etc.

Pull your ***ing head out of your ass!!

[El-blanco]

Ya, I can't believe how long this has gone on. The guy's an idiot.