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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Fighting Words - Pacquiao-Algieri: Learning the Hard Way

    by David P. Greisman - Chris Algieri’s background came to the forefront from the moment he entered the spotlight. He was a novelty in a sport that draws the poor and otherwise troubled, taking them off the streets and instilling discipline, showing them the value of sacrifice even if it comes at a physical price.

    Algieri was a private-school student from the well-to-do region of Long Island, New York, who has a college diploma and a master’s degree and has designs on attending medical school. Contrast that with the best boxer in the world, Floyd Mayweather Jr., who while opulent now didn’t come from an affluent background, and who defended accusations earlier this year that he was functionally illiterate.

    The first person Algieri defeated in 2014, Emanuel Taylor, was brought to the gym at the age of 3, as his father preemptively wanted something that would keep him out of trouble later in life. That approach didn’t stick for Taylor’s brother, also a boxer, who wound up serving time in prison. The second person Algieri defeated this year, Ruslan Provodnikov, believes he would have been behind bars himself if not for boxing. And the person Algieri fought this past weekend, Manny Pacquiao, had dropped out, moved out and was a homeless teenager long before he became a national icon and then a global superstar.

    Algieri didn’t need to fight but he loved to compete. He wrestled. He became a pro kickboxer. He chose boxing. But it wasn’t a mere hobby. This was a pursuit.

    That’s what it had to be for him to succeed against opponents who needed it more. That’s what it had to be for him to put his studies on the backburner as his boxing career advanced to higher-level opponents and higher-profile fights. And that’s what it had to be for him to come off the canvas against Provodnikov twice in the first round and then battle and box despite his right eye being swollen shut for the remaining 11 rounds, winning a split decision and a world title. [Click Here To Read More]
  • Mr.Daddy
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    Nice article. Once again, Chris must get a competent and proven trainer (dump Tim Lane as he has not a clue about boxing) if he intends to continue boxing - especially the elite. Regardless of how well Chris recovered from the knockdowns this past weekend, he cannot continue to absorb power punches at that rate - if nothing else, he'll accumulate enough bruising that it will affect his grey matter sooner or later - and in the 21st century, Chris - with his healthful dietary habit - should be relatively young even into his seventies - that is if he avoids the Jerry Quarry accumulated damage syndrome. And yes, I said into his seventies - active, fit, youthful in appearance as well as sharp in his mental health too.
    Last edited by Mr.Daddy; 11-24-2014, 07:24 AM. Reason: finish my thoughts

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    • Dr Rumack
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      #3
      Good article. Poor Tim Lane. That guy is going to get hammered until people just forget about him.

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      • Evol
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        for the ones blaming the trainer, wtf was chris suppose to do that he wasnt doing to get manny off of him??? the game plan was exactly what chris did. box and move and hope to catch manny late coming in recklessly. as soon as chris stop and traded look what happen to him. there was nothing chris could have done to help him out.

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        • Jayallday9
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          #5
          I know that fight with Floyd needs to happen ASAP..Pac was stratigically matched against Chris like he has been for many years while calling Floyd's name out...Some people are really "learning the hard way"....

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          • Mr.Daddy
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            Originally posted by Evol
            for the ones blaming the trainer, wtf was chris suppose to do that he wasnt doing to get manny off of him??? the game plan was exactly what chris did. box and move and hope to catch manny late coming in recklessly. as soon as chris stop and traded look what happen to him. there was nothing chris could have done to help him out.
            Obviously Tim Lane had little advice which would help Chris as Chris was in over his head: however, it is one thing for Lane to assess problems and advise Chris, but it is another altogether for Lane to be clueless in his assessment of what was transpiring in the ring, and then announce his thoughts publicly before passing them on to Chris and sending him out for the next round. As I see it, Lane had no clue about what was happening between Manny and Chris, and Chris cannot afford that to happen again.

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            • alexguiness
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              Maybe Algieri felt he had to show some loyalty to Lane after he beat Prov.

              Either way, Tim Lane has no place in professional boxing.

              The guy clearly exists in some kind of other dimensional where 'positive thinking' and 'Champion Lifestyle' are enough to be competitive at the very highest level of professional sport.

              Some of the stuff he was saying before and during the find made no sense whatsoever.

              The whole Algieiri set-up was weird and just too intense. Too much emphasis on avocados, magic necklaces and strange mythical motivational speeches.

              Algieri either bought into Lane's line of BS completely OR he was just too polite to get rid of him for the biggest fight of his life.

              Both Algieiri and Lane are equally to blame - they thought they were smarter than Manny and Roach.

              Ring smarts are more important than book smarts.

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                Lol @ Lane, telling Kellerman that he was about to "let the tiger out of the cage" to KO Pacquiao by round 10 or 11. It was at that point in the 9th, that Manny knocked Algieri down and nearly out, and Lane exposed himself as being delusional and inept as a trainer.

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                • ElChinoMaidana
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                  ***** ran and potshot like *****floyd with Provodnikov...tried to do the the same with Pac who shoulda knock that punk kid back to school...

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                  • jbpanama
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                    This Cat is the Reincarnation of Chuck Davy...

                    Pac still looks too tough, for Our Hero to Risk His O,
                    and Health, in a Fight with Pac, at this time....

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