Comments Thread For: Joe Calzaghe: Hopkins in a Dangerous, Difficult Fight

[JACK1190]

Joke Alzaghe should just shut his cowardly ******* and pecker smoking sewer hole. Nobody wants to hear anything from a guy who picked the bones of a few ex-big name corpses then "retired" when the going got tough so he could have a Maynever like "undefeated" crutch to live off of. Piss off, Joke.

Coming from a guy that says Mayweather is 44-3. Please shut up.

[Foreign Soil]

So how did one judge score for shumenov on US soil?

I'll wait....

There's always 1 judge, like that 1 judge in the Dawson fight who scored it a draw. If Hopkins did as good as yall think then he would've had 2 judges scoring wide. The best he could get was an even card in rounds vs Zaghe.

[Mike D]

So how did one judge score for shumenov on US soil?

I'll wait....

Wait a minute...now I was drinking (heavily if I recall correctly) the night of the Hopkins/Shumenov fight, so I forgot what the cards were. I just remember that Hopkins won, and remember him winning it in a landslide. You mean to tell me that a judge had it for Shumenov that night?

lmaoooooooo

[Foreign Soil]

no i'm not. watch the calzaghe deception on youtube if you want to see for yourself. it happened over and over but you just thought calzaghe was landing when it was actually hopkins landing. there were many times when the announcers or crowd thought calzaghe landed simply because he was throwing when it was hopkins catching calzaghe with sneaky punches. being able to stand there and make your opponent hit air or shoulders with 4 or 5 punches then catch him completely flush is much harder than simply coming forward and throwing punches that don't land. it should also be rewarded much more when it comes to scoring.

calzaghe was the a-side in that fight and the crowd was overwhelmingly pro calzaghe so its no surprise he won a decision. calzaghe-jones was also set as long as calzaghe won so there was money to be made. the judges just got it wrong for whatever reason. maybe it was corruption, maybe they were just fooled by the crowd and incompetent. we know what really happened and calzaghe was outboxed quite easily for most of the fight. well most of us know.

That's straight nonsense and you know it. It was a chess match with hardly anything happening from either guy. The idea that anybody got schooled, outclassed or outboxed in that fight is sole fabrication.

[NorvernRob]

I actually remember quite the opposite. It was Joe's detractors that claimed that he was in over his head against Lacy.

It wasn't just Joe's detractors that thought Lacy would win, the vast majority of fans and people inside the sport thought he would. A few predicted a close decision win for Joe, but nobody thought he would beat Lacy's ass from pillar to post in every round.

Just google 'Calzaghe Lacy predictions' and see what the opinions were back then.

http://www.boxingscene.com/boxingsce...calzaghe--3266

It's easy to look back now and say Lacy was over-rated. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Maybe Calzaghe was and still is criminally under-rated and what he did to Lacy that night made sure he was never the same again.

I'll leave the last word to Joe:

Jeff Lacy was never the same fighter again. Calzaghe said: "Eight years I've been champion and I've been written off by a lot of people. This fight has been on my mind morning, noon and night. I demolished him and outclassed him. His punches didn't trouble me in the slightest. I was expecting more. I saw them coming from miles away. I knew I was going to win the fight. How's that for a slapper? Those slaps had his legs going all over the place."[11]

[IronDanHamza]

It wasn't just Joe's detractors that thought Lacy would win, the vast majority of fans and people inside the sport thought he would. A few predicted a close decision win for Joe, but nobody thought he would beat Lacy's ass from pillar to post in every round.

Just google 'Calzaghe Lacy predictions' and see what the opinions were back then.

http://www.boxingscene.com/boxingsce...calzaghe--3266

It's easy to look back now and say Lacy was over-rated. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Maybe Calzaghe was and still is criminally under-rated and what he did to Lacy that night made sure he was never the same again.

I'll leave the last word to Joe:

There's no maybe about it.

He was overrated and he was a bum who doesn't have a single good win in his career.

[jas]

Wait a minute...now I was drinking (heavily if I recall correctly) the night of the Hopkins/Shumenov fight, so I forgot what the cards were. I just remember that Hopkins won, and remember him winning it in a landslide. You mean to tell me that a judge had it for Shumenov that night?

lmaoooooooo

quite possibly the greatest scorecard in history mike

[Mike D]

quite possibly the greatest scorecard in history mike

Dude that is amazing. That makes me want to go back and watch that fight again. Didn't Shumenov damn near get shut out in that fight? What was your score card jas?

[Unseen]

Calzaghe taught Hopkin's to avoid fast guys with workrate and go for brawlers.

Dawson beat him easily. Boxers can, but brawlers or boxer fighters find it hard.

[Foreign Soil]

Dude that is amazing. That makes me want to go back and watch that fight again. Didn't Shumenov damn near get shut out in that fight? What was your score card jas?

The judge who scored it for Shumenov was Panamanian, aka WBA headquarters. They didn't even try to hide it.