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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — Shelf Lives and Self-Sabotage

    by David P. Greisman - If the status quo sticks, by the time 2014 ends Andre Ward will have gone 13 months without a fight. It will have been 11 months since Mikey Garcia last stepped in the ring. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.’s gap between bouts will be at 10 months and counting.

    These are the three most prominent current cases of boxers battling with their promoters: Ward with Goossen Promotions, whose head, Dan Goossen, recently passed away after being diagnosed with cancer; and Garcia and Chavez Jr. with Top Rank. Ward and Garcia filed lawsuits attempting to extract themselves from their promoters, while Chavez himself was hit with litigation asserting that he still under contract.

    All three could’ve fought had they swallowed their pride and accepted the money and terms being offered to them. They didn’t. That’s their choice and their prerogative. This isn’t like football, where a quarterback or wide receiver who holds out ends up missing important practice reps that get him ready for the season and in rhythm with his teammates. There is no other sport in which the athlete has a greater right to think of himself first. Boxers put their brains and bodies on the line. Doing so needs to be worth it to them fiscally if they are going to pay for it physically.

    Yet it’s maddening to many of us fans and observers, who feel that boxers are wasting prime periods of their career and losing money in the process. You don’t get paid if you don’t perform. Boxers already have a limited shelf life before the wear and tear begins to show and age begins to slow them down.

    That’s why we praise those who take short money or tough opponents for the potential of what winning those fights will do. Two of the more notable examples in recent years were Zab Judah, who accepted $100,000 for his rematch with Cory Spinks because it meant he had another opportunity to gain the welterweight championship. Judah scored the stoppage; the decision paid off. And last year Terence Crawford came in on short notice and moved up in weight to face Breidis Prescott, all so that he could debut on HBO. Crawford won, impressed and is now one of the network’s regularly featured talents and a budding star. [Click Here To Read More]
  • Luiz
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    David always brings good reads.

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    • Fetta
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      Fighters shouldnt be forced to sign extensions for promoters to get them fights.

      Promoters should just promote.

      Times are changing
      Last edited by Fetta; 10-27-2014, 04:02 PM.

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      • bojangles1987
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        If they want out so bad, the best course is always to fight out the contract and walk. All that Ward and Chavez do by holding out is extend their contracts and lose in court.

        It's this ridiculous entitlement so many fighters have that they should be stars without ever earning it. They don't realize that the biggest stars in boxing always, and I mean always, earn it the hard way. Even the ones born with a silver mouthpiece like Oscar and Alvarez have to earn it. Mayweather and Pacquiao earned it the hard way. Cotto earned it.

        You don't get to win a few fights, become relevant, and suddenly become some huge star just because you did something at some point.

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        • US Dirk Killer
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          Originally posted by Fetta
          Fighters shouldnt be forced to sign extensions for promoters to get them fights.
          Promoters should just promote.

          Times are changing
          Oh, like Ward who willingly signed his extension with all parties present...or Chavez Jnr who was given an extension fight deal and a non-extension fight deal?

          Super middleweight titlist Andre Ward signed a multiyear promotional contract extension with Dan Goossen.


          "In Dan, I have a very strong promoter, two promoters actually, Antonio Leonard and Dan, and a strong manager," Ward said. "I have a great coach (Virgil Hunter), who has been with me from day one. We've got a strong foundation, strong stability and as we keep going to the top it's only going to get stronger, and I am happy to say that we signed an extension to our promotional deal.

          "I think it was pretty much a no brainer because not only is Dan a West Coast guy and so am I, but we have chemistry, and that's big. So I am thankful for that today and I am proud to be announcing that news."
          These hoes ain't loyal

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          • Bigg Rigg
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            If u sign the damn contract, I don't wanna hear **** man.

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