[GOOD READ] Malignaggi's Ananlysis of MAYWEATCHER-PACQUIAO back in 2009!

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #11
    Originally posted by straightleft
    Floydiots with their pea size brains will never understand why is Floyd keep saying his health comes first, Pac your are next but I never said that, after Pac agreed to all his demands he will never deal with Arum anyway and needs to leave Arum after so many ridiculous demands.
    The original "demands" were the same as what Pacquiao now demands. :boobies:

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    • hitman smax
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      #12
      Paulie could, should, and probably will be a trainer some day, a real good one in fact.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #13
        I know exactly what Malignaggi is talking about and I once favored Pacquiao to beat Mayweather but a lot has changed since then and I'm not even talking about the loses Pacquaio faced or his decline. I'm speaking before that, Pacquiao did improve considerably but his deficiencies when comforted with movement reared it's ugly head once again, I caught glimpses of that against Cotto, Mosley exposed it to the highest degree and Marquez pretty much took a page out of Mosley's book and luckily enough still fresh enough to apply his offense. ****m said it perfectly, Pacquaio was exposed against Mosley, many failed to see it simply looking at the rounds won but not acknowledging that a fighter who was never known for his boxing ability; not even his prime, neutralized Pacquiao. That was one of the few things that changed, at least for me because I guess at the time I assumed Manny could deal with it.

        Secondly, Mayweather had a reputation for not utilizing his jab as much as he should, he was predominantly a lead puncher before Sr. got back with him during the Marquez fight. So Malignaggi at the time was right about Mayweather freezing up defensively at times. Now it's an entirely different story as he consistently uses the jab, it's become a very consistent part of his game so what Malignaggi speaks of right now...Pacquiao wouldn't have had such success due to the jab, never mind the movement Mayweather would apply.
        Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 04-01-2014, 01:54 AM.

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        • TRTboy
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          #14
          bump..........

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          • Ham Porter
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            #15
            Originally posted by TRTboy
            This was after pac beat cotto.

            It was a couple of weeks after the Hatton fight; Malignaggi was firmly in Mayweather's corner and accusing Pacquiao of being on roids after the Cotto fight.


            If nothing else, Malignaggi is a good analyst and knows how to articulate his thoughts and opinions very well. He gave a good breakdown of the Mayweather-Marquez fights in that same article (b*xinginsider, by the way.)

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            • stuff jones
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              #16
              Originally posted by Pacquiao'd
              Juiceman never stood a chance his why him and arum avoided the fight repeatedly citing numerous ******ed reasons
              Do you have any evidence that Pac juiced? Thanks.

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              • TRTboy
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                #17
                The mayweather clan knows what's gonna happen when Floyd gets in the ring with pac. They know.

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                • Carpe Diem
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  I know exactly what Malignaggi is talking about and I once favored Pacquiao to beat Mayweather but a lot has changed since then and I'm not even talking about the loses Pacquaio faced or his decline. I'm speaking before that, Pacquiao did improve considerably but his deficiencies when comforted with movement reared it's ugly head once again, I caught glimpses of that against Cotto, Mosley exposed it to the highest degree and Marquez pretty much took a page out of Mosley's book and luckily enough still fresh enough to apply his offense. ****m said it perfectly, Pacquaio was exposed against Mosley, many failed to see it simply looking at the rounds won but not acknowledging that a fighter who was never known for his boxing ability; not even his prime, neutralized Pacquiao. That was one of the few things that changed, at least for me because I guess at the time I assumed Manny could deal with it.

                  Secondly, Mayweather had a reputation for not utilizing his jab as much as he should, he was predominantly a lead puncher before Sr. got back with him during the Marquez fight. So Malignaggi at the time was right about Mayweather freezing up defensively at times. Now it's an entirely different story as he consistently uses the jab, it's become a very consistent part of his game so what Malignaggi speaks of right now...Pacquiao wouldn't have had such success due to the jab, never mind the movement Mayweather would apply.

                  Floyd uses the jab effectively against orthodox, but against southpaws, he paw the jab to set up his lead right hand upstairs or downstairs or he counters over the southpaws jab with his own jab or a left hook counter. It's more effective that way. He'll land a few scoring jabs here and there against them, but he doesn't do it enough to get countered in return.

                  It's very smart the way he uses it too because one of the main mistakes that Cotto made was that he tried to jab Manny a few times after he landed a few countered jabs on Manny, but Manny countered over his jab with his own jab and lead straight lefts more effectively after Cotto couldn't followed up with any power shots and Manny simply bulldozed in and out and beat him to the punch off and stopped him late. You have to be able to follow up with something instead of constantly jabbing and throwing the left hook.






                  Sometimes he'll paw it to pause his opponent, and instantly throw the lead straight right hand upstairs or downstairs.

                  Or



                  He will use it as a measuring stick to anticipate his opponent's offensive rhythm on the way in and gets his shots off first. Ortiz closed the gap and got in eventually, but Floyd still landed the better effective scoring punches.

                  It's a very underrated tactic that very few fighters in the sports uses effectively. Rigo is probably the only other fighter who uses it as well as Floyd.
                  Last edited by Carpe Diem; 04-13-2014, 06:27 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by straightleft
                    Floydiots with their pea size brains will never understand why is Floyd keep saying his health comes first, Pac your are next but I never said that, after Pac agreed to all his demands and now he will never deal with Arum anyway. He said Pac needs to leave Arum now so the fight can materialize. Why asked so many ridiculous demands anyway in the first place?
                    Those were the early roadblocks . I can see the next one being that PAC mama can't attend the fight.

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                      #20
                      Prime pac has the greatest chance to beat mayweather. People here are acting like ''Floyd called him once and he turn down a career high offer". How do you think he made that call? because pacquiao sent konckz to mayweather's gym. It was always pacquiao who really wanted that fight.

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