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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Ricky Burns Lucky To Sc**** Draw in Scotland

    Have you heard the joke about the Englishman, the Belgian and the American? You know the one, its punch line rang loud and clear around Glasgow’s SEC live on Sky Sports on Saturday night when the three wise men judging Ricky Burns’s WBO lightweight title defence against Raymundo Beltran somehow conspired to conjure up a draw despite the fact that many felt the visitor had more than won the fight. This result has whipped fans into yet another apoplectic frenzy. Even worse, it has besmirched boxing; the noble game has once again been dragged into the gutter after a result and controversy that people won’t forget for days.

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    "There are no drawn rounds on my card, ever." Tosser.

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    • Neckodeemus
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      #3
      Originally posted by Kilrain
      "There are no drawn rounds on my card, ever." Tosser.
      I apologise for always being able to sift out the winner of a round. It does have its drawbacks. Not giving 2-3 even rounds per fight then only having nine rounds to split them — and running the risk of scoring it 5-4 in rounds, meaning the winner won less than half of the fight, is a notable one — but I’ll just have to muddle along, won’t I?

      Thanks for reading.

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      • Hougigo
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        IMO, Burns won 120-102
        Beltran was lucky to leave with a draw

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        • MDPopescu
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          #5
          Originally posted by hougigo
          IMO, Burns won 120-102
          Beltran was lucky to leave with a draw
          And Beltran should be banned from boxing for unproperly breaking highlanders' jaws.

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          • Gucci
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            Burns lost if you didnt see it then shut the fuck up and just enjoy the fight dont comment on it and spill ****** ass nonsense.

            Reason robberies etc can happen so often and etc is cause of all the idiots who think they know boxing that will agree with the wrong decision.

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              #7
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              And Beltran should be banned from boxing for unproperly breaking highlanders' jaws.
              Kind of surprised he wasn't deducted a point for that.
              IMO, people complain about Ricky putting Beltran in a headlock... it's Beltrans own fault for putting himself in that position

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                #8
                Originally posted by Gucci
                Burns lost if you didnt see it then shut the fuck up and just enjoy the fight dont comment on it and spill ****** ass nonsense.

                Reason robberies etc can happen so often and etc is cause of all the idiots who think they know boxing that will agree with the wrong decision.
                Of course Burns lost the fight... Even the hometown public didn't agree with the decision...
                Then what or who made you that angry?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by hougigo
                  Kind of surprised he wasn't deducted a point for that.
                  IMO, people complain about Ricky putting Beltran in a headlock... it's Beltrans own fault for putting himself in that position
                  I suspect the ref also heard Burns crying in pain and was disgusted by the fact that Beltran displayed no pity and didn't quit the fight...

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                  • Weebler I
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Neckodeemus
                    I apologise for always being able to sift out the winner of a round. It does have its drawbacks. Not giving 2-3 even rounds per fight then only having nine rounds to split them — and running the risk of scoring it 5-4 in rounds, meaning the winner won less than half of the fight, is a notable one — but I’ll just have to muddle along, won’t I?

                    Thanks for reading.
                    Assuming you're the author, one thing I take issue with is your assertion that the close rounds don't go to the champ and home fighter. It's not right that they do, but this is boxing and in practice they usually do. It's not a matter of lowering oneself, it's just the reality. Carl Froch said it this year on the Kessler fight and Malignaggi said it after the Broner fight. It's something they acknowledge as fighters, so as fans why can't we?

                    On Phil Edwards and the holding, how is it any different to Steve Smoger who is considered by many to be the best ref in the game? In Maidana v Alexander, he allowed them to clinch 119 times in 10 rounds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4If7vEUAnPU I wouldn't be too harsh on him either.

                    This fight reminded me of Bradley v Providnikov, it was close on rounds but it was clear who was landing the more powerful punches. However, boxing is scored on rounds and there enough of them close to justify the draw imo. You referenced fightscorecollector, he had the fight 114-113 meaning the knockdown was the difference and he watched it twice.

                    One other thing never touched on by the press is Beltran's association with Memo Heredia. If Juan Manuel Marquez went into his next fight with no drug testing there would be uproar owing to his association but Beltran just gets a pass with no questions asked.
                    Last edited by Weebler I; 09-11-2013, 07:08 AM.

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