Will you give Haye credit if he beats Fury?

[LacedUp]

backpedaling and not countering or landing jabs when you do it is running. If you constantly stay out of your opponents reach and don't take advantage of clear opportunities to score on him, and seem content with slipping punches and pivoting around the ring, especially when you aren't almost out on your feet and just trying to survive a portion of a round. That's running.

How can it be running? Wtf?

Running is when you speedily avoid your opponents trades, as well as using the ring to speedily move away from you opponent. Slipping punches is not running.

[LacedUp]

Haye fought pretty much exactly the same way as he did against Valuev.

Dirrell was actually landing punches on Froch and arguably won the fight - you could not say either for Haye against Wlad.

So? Was he not running? Nobody has said it couldn't be effective. Cassius Clay ran from Liston for 7 rounds, but still dominated every aspect of the fight.

The Wlad fight was in no way similar to the Valuev fight. That's reaching.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

How can it be running? Wtf?

Running is when you speedily avoid your opponents trades, as well as using the ring to speedily move away from you opponent. Slipping punches is not running.

When you are 99% focused on defence and 1% on attack, it's running.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The Wlad fight was in no way similar to the Valuev fight. That's reaching.

Virtually the exact same tactics and they got horribly exposed against a good fighter.

[LacedUp]

When you are 99% focused on defence and 1% on attack, it's running.

So Foreman ran from Moorer? Barely threw a punch before the tenth?

[LacedUp]

Virtually the exact same tactics and they got horribly exposed against a good fighter.

No they weren't.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So Foreman ran from Moorer? Barely threw a punch before the tenth?

Was he back-pedalling around the ring trying to avoid all possibility of engaging?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No they weren't.

Oh and Im sure you can explain the subtle differences and intricacies that everyone who watched both fights happened to miss

Running, feinting, and throwing as few punches as possible. Those were his tactics in both fights.

Like I said, I can't help you if you're in denial.

[LoadedWraps]

Must be the first intelligent thing I've seen you post

Maybe the only thing you agree with me on, just because you are a Khan fan and I am a Bradley fan and I like to tease you on occasion doesn't make one of us less/more knowledgable than the other. If you read my posts objectively more often and didn't focus on my Bradley fandom we would probably agree more often.

[LoadedWraps]

How can it be running? Wtf?

Running is when you speedily avoid your opponents trades, as well as using the ring to speedily move away from you opponent. Slipping punches is not running.

I never said "slipping is running", read the whole post. The combination of those actions is running. If you aren't barely surviving, and you have opportunities to exchange but refuse, and are backpedaling, it's running. How is it not? Movement is primarily to keep your opponent out of range, keep him from setting, and gain better angles and advantagous positioning, if you do all of this and don't even connect, you are running. Not many people score rounds in favor of the one dancing around if they aren't connecting more shots while they do it, or more meaningful ones.