Will you give Haye credit if he beats Fury?

[yoz]

Yeah I wasn't saying Pulev was the next best, just that the question would still be open in my opinion if Pulev beats TT. Haye v Pulev is a great scrap we'll probably never see, even if Pulev beats Wlad.

Ha ha ha ha. Keep dreaming, Weeb.

[yoz]

'Prime' Vitali (2010-2011, supposedly...)destroys Haye. Haye knew it, too. Why else did he side-step the fight? He spotted defensive vulnerabilities in Wladimir.

[GoldenGloveLove]

I don't understand the question? If you don't give a guy any credit for beating any top ten guy then you're obviously a hater that won't give him credit for much of anything in the first place. This is a great match for the division no matter who wins!

[GoldenGloveLove]

'Prime' Vitali (2010-2011, supposedly...)destroys Haye. Haye knew it, too. Why else did he side-step the fight? He spotted defensive vulnerabilities in Wladimir.

If you can watch Vitali in his late twenties then watch him in 2010 and 11 and say he was prime then I don't know what's going on. Who takes four years off and comes back and is in their prime years later in their late thirties? Haye's got a big ego and he wanted to hold some cards at the table. To me that's why the fight hasn't happened. He wanted the WBA belt to tempt Wlad into a better deal and he had nothing to tempt Vitali into the kind of deal he wanted because they already had everything they wanted-all four belts. Nobody fights Wlad and is scared of Vitali imo. Not for the last few years. Wlad's much more dangerous and less vulnerable now.

[LacedUp]

'Prime' Vitali (2010-2011, supposedly...)destroys Haye. Haye knew it, too. Why else did he side-step the fight? He spotted defensive vulnerabilities in Wladimir.

The Vitali of 2010 would have big problems with Haye. The 2004 version, not so much.

[Curtiz]

Calm down son.

Anyone who has seen Fury's fights can see that he is tailor made for Haye. He's been put down heavily by overhand rights which is Haye's favourite punch.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise why Haye has cherry picked this fight. He was supposed to fight Charr but then saw the £££ signs in Fury so he faked an injury to get the fight made.

So is every southpaw on earth, whats your point? Taylor made he is not.

Also Bradley beat Pac in my eyes so I don't care what you think, I made money off of that fight.

[yoz]

The Vitali of 2010 would have big problems with Haye. The 2004 version, not so much.

Hmmmm, perhaps. IMO, even today's Vitali (old man), gives Haye his toughest ever fight. Pretty sure Vitali would be the favourite, too.

[Simurgh]

The Vitali of 2010 would have big problems with Haye. The 2004 version, not so much.

Huge problems.. No.

Vitali could have SOME problems with Haye's speed. But it would be matter does he KOs him or takes wide UD.

What can Haye do to outbox Vitali? (Vitali has a massive output, higher than Wlad), and we know how Haye deals with tall fighters.

What can Haye do to TKO/KO Vitali and not to be KOed? (I don't think Haye hits harder than 2010 Vitali and Vitali's chin is waaay better as well as his stamina).

Vitali is all wrong for Haye.

Ia actually think that Haye would have a better chance against 2004 Vitali as that version was much more aggressive and much more prone to injuries. Injury during the fight is Haye's best chance.

[LacedUp]

Hmmmm, perhaps. IMO, even today's Vitali (old man), gives Haye his toughest ever fight. Pretty sure Vitali would be the favourite, too.

I'm sure he'd be the favorite and rightly so. No one will giv Haye a tougher fight stylistically than Wlad. He's wrong for Haye because he moves so well and is deceptively quick both on hand and foot.

Huge problems.. No.

Vitali could have SOME problems with Haye's speed. But it would be matter does he KOs him or takes wide UD.

What can Haye do to outbox Vitali? (Vitali has a massive output, higher than Wlad), and we know how Haye deals with tall fighters.

What can Haye do to TKO/KO Vitali and not to be KOed? (I don't think Haye hits harder than 2010 Vitali and Vitali's chin is waaay better as well as his stamina).

Vitali is all wrong for Haye.

Ia actually think that Haye would have a better chance against 2004 Vitali as that version was much more aggressive and much more prone to injuries. Injury during the fight is Haye's best chance.

I think Haye would cause Vitali a lot of problems. Whilst Vitali does have a high punch output, he's not very accurate or a least not as accurate as Wlad and he's a whole lot slower. So if Wlad had issues landing on Haye, what do you think Vitali would? At the same time, Vitali's defense is not on the level of Wlad's, he likes to keep his left hand low like Lennox used to and Haye does and that makes you a tat vulnerable to a right hand - coincidentally Hayes money punch.

I just think Vitali is stylistically good for Haye and Wlad wasn't.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So is every southpaw on earth, whats your point? Taylor made he is not.

Also Bradley beat Pac in my eyes so I don't care what you think, I made money off of that fight.

What in God's name are you talking about mate?