Will you give Haye credit if he beats Fury?

[LacedUp]

Vitali would make an easy work of Haye a few years ago.
The only reason Haye is so eager to fight him is Vitali's age and him slowing down. And even if he loses it's no big deal as Wlad already beat him.

That's just the fact.

Let's get one thing straight, Vitali has never met anyone with the speed Haye has. Though he might have won against Haye a couple of years, he would certainly not have made "easy work" of Haye that's for damn sure.

[yoz]

Let's get one thing straight, Vitali has never met anyone with the speed Haye has. Though he might have won against Haye a couple of years, he would certainly not have made "easy work" of Haye that's for damn sure.

He would have shattered Haye's glass chin.

[LacedUp]

He would have shattered Haye's glass chin.

Hmm, didn't you say Wlad hit harder than Vitali?

Did Wlad 'shatter' Haye's glass chin? No. Is Wlad faster and more mobile than Vitali ever was? Yes.

Once again, I'm not saying he wouldn't win, but this guy went 7 rounds with Danny Williams in his prime. Come on.

[M Bison]

Hmm, didn't you say Wlad hit harder than Vitali?

Did Wlad 'shatter' Haye's glass chin? No. Is Wlad faster and more mobile than Vitali ever was? Yes.

Once again, I'm not saying he wouldn't win, but this guy went 7 rounds with Danny Williams in his prime. Come on.

I think If we're to see a KO of Haye happening with either of the Klitschko, Vitali's style is more suited for it.
Obviously with that though he's open to be hit and doesn't move aswell as Wladimir so it could easily be a competitive fight.

I'd think Vitali vs Haye would be alot more stamina sapping than the Wlad vs Haye fight because Vitali is a guy who will constantly be putting the jab in the face and not giving Haye a moment rest unlike Wladimir who will posture up and not take many risks, he would only throw the big punch If it represented a good opening without him being hit whilst throwing it.

Can't wait till September.

[LacedUp]

I think If we're to see a KO of Haye happening with either of the Klitschko, Vitali's style is more suited for it.
Obviously with that though he's open to be hit and doesn't move aswell as Wladimir so it could easily be a competitive fight.

I'd think Vitali vs Haye would be alot more stamina sapping than the Wlad vs Haye fight because Vitali is a guy who will constantly be putting the jab in the face and not giving Haye a moment rest unlike Wladimir who will posture up and not take many risks, he would only throw the big punch If it represented a good opening without him being hit whilst throwing it.

Can't wait till September.

I have never said that Vitali wouldn't KO Haye, because I think he would. But 'easy work' implies a couple of rounds.

Haye would demand a top 3 spot on Vitali's hit list and I haven't seem him destroying everyone else in a couple of rounds so to think he could do that to Haye is implausible,

[yoz]

I have never said that Vitali wouldn't KO Haye, because I think he would. But 'easy work' implies a couple of rounds.

Haye would demand a top 3 spot on Vitali's hit list and I haven't seem him destroying everyone else in a couple of rounds so to think he could do that to Haye is implausible,

I'm just trolling. You know my thoughts on a potential Haye-Vitali match-up.

[joe strong]

Would Fury be Haye's best win?

I've been watching HW boxing a long time now so i respect (boring as paint drying) john "huggy bear" ruiz more then others. He was 37 but still i think ruiz is his best win. Ruiz neutralized some good HWs in his time. 2 world titles & 12 title fights. Although He did pick up lennox lewis' vacated belt so his reign could be considered tainted. Fury hasn't fought anywhere close to the level of fighters ruiz has...just my opinion

[BattlingNelson]

I have my opinion and it doesn't change over an "official" verdict because I am not a sheep.

Chisora-Helenius was a far worse decision than any of those. Everyone knows who won that fight. Stop it.

So Chisora-Helenius is the worst. Can you tell me, since you are a non-sheep, if there's other fights where the official outcome shouldn't count. I'd like to know where you want to rewrite history. I'm particularly interested in Ward-Kessler. Maybe it really is a DQ win for the dane and not a TD for Ward. And maybe Manfredo shouldn't have been stopped against Calzaghe so you probably see that fight as a draw given that you are a 'non-sheep'.

[Kris Silver]

I've been watching HW boxing a long time now so i respect (boring as paint drying) john "huggy bear" ruiz more then others. He was 37 but still i think ruiz is his best win. Ruiz neutralized some good HWs in his time. 2 world titles & 12 title fights. Although He did pick up lennox lewis' vacated belt so his reign could be considered tainted. Fury hasn't fought anywhere close to the level of fighters ruiz has...just my opinion

Ruiz is to boxing is as the Skoda is to the car world.

No matter how solid it may have been or could/can be, it's name is ridiculed leaving it with a inescapably poorer view from the public than deserved.

A draw and a win over Holyfield is solid. Chisora's best win is a controversial loss against Helenius.

Valuev is decent but yup I had Holyfield beating him too.

Chisora is inconsistent and whilst good when he chooses, I'd have him the 3rd best HW win behind Ruiz and Valuev. On experience, records, size match-up and such alone I think that's justified.

[NEETzsche]

A fight that the Klit's avoided.

it was clearly the other way round.