Will you give Haye credit if he beats Fury?

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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #21
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    You are dreaming. You make points about Haye's stamina which is legit observations, but when a lightpunching washed up cruiserweight knocks Fury down hard with the same shot that Fury has been down with earlier in his career, it tells you that:

    1: Fury has been unable to correct that particular flaw.
    2: Fury's chin is suspect
    3: Haye will win by KO in the first half of the fight courtesy of an overhand right or two.
    I'm not saying that won't happen, i'm just looking at it from the angle of if I was training Fury, how i'd approach it.

    Fury get's caught with that shot when he gets careless and out of position.

    When he's not messing around he doesn't get hit near as much.

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      #22
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Question is, would Wlad get credit for beating Fury?
      Sure, if it was in impressive/clinical fashion.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Earl Hickey
        I'm not saying that won't happen, i'm just looking at it from the angle of if I was training Fury, how i'd approach it.

        Fury get's caught with that shot when he gets careless and out of position.

        When he's not messing around he doesn't get hit near as much.
        Hopefully Peter will instil some discipline.

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        • D-MiZe
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          #24
          You're reaching with that David Price angle.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Mormeck is Haye's best win. I would put Chisora above Valuev. Valuev is a giant tomato can and Haye won that fight in the gayest manner possible.
            You might have a point about Mormeck. I was only thinking HW and Chisora must be ranked waaaay below Valuev and under Ruiz as well.

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              #26
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              You are dreaming. You make points about Haye's stamina which is legit observations, but when a lightpunching washed up cruiserweight knocks Fury down hard with the same shot that Fury has been down with earlier in his career, it tells you that:

              1: Fury has been unable to correct that particular flaw.
              2: Fury's chin is suspect
              3: Haye will win by KO in the first half of the fight courtesy of an overhand right or two.
              If Fury's chin was that bad like everyone is saying he would have been knocked out already, he's been hit with massive shots and has never looked close to being stopped.
              Face the facts Tyson Fury has got a half decent chin OTHERWISE he wouldn't be getting back up off the canvas!!
              He also has a tremendous amount of heart.

              People seem to forget the old saying of in a heavyweight fight it only takes one punch, someone weighing over 200lbs and you're trying to say he's going to have absolutely no power If he lands?
              Don't be absolutely ridiculous, what a ****** thing to say.

              The problem with Fury getting dropped is his bad foot-work and clumsy defense.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Keitha313
                Yes, would definitely give credit.
                Tyson Fury would be the best victory Haye holds on in his career If he beats him.
                Well either the best of second best because Haye's record certainly isn't anything spectacularly amazing.

                In my opinion Haye's best win to date is Valuev.
                Fury has done nothing to show he's even on Valuevs level.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Keitha313
                  If Fury's chin was that bad like everyone is saying he would have been knocked out already, he's been hit with massive shots and has never looked close to being stopped.
                  Face the facts Tyson Fury has got a half decent chin OTHERWISE he wouldn't be getting back up off the canvas!!
                  He also has a tremendous amount of heart.

                  People seem to forget the old saying of in a heavyweight fight it only takes one punch, someone weighing over 200lbs and you're trying to say he's going to have absolutely no power If he lands?
                  Don't be absolutely ridiculous, what a ****** thing to say.

                  The problem with Fury getting dropped is his bad foot-work and clumsy defense.
                  He's never fought someone who can punch and has been floored by pillow fisted fighters, it's impossible to say he has a decent chin when everything points to that he hasn't.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    You are dreaming. You make points about Haye's stamina which is legit observations, but when a lightpunching washed up cruiserweight knocks Fury down hard with the same shot that Fury has been down with earlier in his career, it tells you that:

                    1: Fury has been unable to correct that particular flaw.
                    2: Fury's chin is suspect
                    3: Haye will win by KO in the first half of the fight courtesy of an overhand right or two.
                    Good post!!!!!!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Keitha313
                      If Fury's chin was that bad like everyone is saying he would have been knocked out already, he's been hit with massive shots and has never looked close to being stopped.
                      Face the facts Tyson Fury has got a half decent chin OTHERWISE he wouldn't be getting back up off the canvas!!
                      He also has a tremendous amount of heart.

                      People seem to forget the old saying of in a heavyweight fight it only takes one punch, someone weighing over 200lbs and you're trying to say he's going to have absolutely no power If he lands?
                      Don't be absolutely ridiculous, what a ****** thing to say.

                      The problem with Fury getting dropped is his bad foot-work and clumsy defense.
                      No. It's because he eats overhand rights thrown from the rafters as if they where m&m's.

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