Is Wladimir Klitschko a top 5 ATG heavyweight?

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  • LacedUp
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    #101
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    Valuev was also a mammoth of a man,, Does that make Haye great
    No but like Willard, Valuev was a good win.

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    • daggum
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      #102
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      No but like Willard, Valuev was a good win.
      hahahaha valuev just got schooled by old man holyfield

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      • Madjab
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        #103
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Willard was seen as a mammoth of a man, 60 pounds heavier than Dempsey and had beaten the great Jack Johnson. He wasn't a dominant champ, but he doesn't get respect for what he did accomplish, even though the circumstances were poor perhaps.

        Wtf are you talking about? Apparently you started that profile this month, so I would say you don't have a clue.
        So now you're going back on your Willard hyperbole ?

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          #104
          Originally posted by daggum
          hahahaha valuev just got schooled by old man holyfield
          So it's a bad win for Haye? And he didn't get schooled. He should have lost a close but clear decision.

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          • LacedUp
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            #105
            Originally posted by Madjab
            So now you're going back on your Willard hyperbole ?
            Yes. I thought I made that pretty clear.

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            • Madjab
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              #106
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              So it's a bad win for Haye? And he didn't get schooled. He should have lost a close but clear decision.
              It's not really a good win. Old ass should have been retired Holyfield beat Valuev better than Haye did

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                #107
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                So it's a bad win for Haye? And he didn't get schooled. He should have lost a close but clear decision.
                holyfield-valuev wasn't close at all and if you can't beat a 46 year old holyfield are you a good fighter? maybe old men who barely throw any punches are just a bad style match up for him?

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                • AL_Camino
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                  #108
                  Definitely top 15 but not top 5

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                  • Jedi Vader
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Freedom2013
                    I have Wladimir between 6 and 10 right now.

                    Another couple of years of dominance with a few more good wins over previously undefeated fighters: Povetkin, Pulev, Boytsov, Fury (if he beats Haye), winner of Ruiz-Hanks, and/or Jennings and he'll be top 5.


                    Explain his previous GOOD wins.

                    Originally posted by Freedom2013
                    Some of his wins are underrated fighters who were undefeated and in their prime (Ibragimov, Chagaev, Brock, etc) or had never been previously stopped (Thompson, Chambers, Shultz, Shufford, Barrett, etc).
                    Who the **** are these bums that had never been stopped????



                    Not one ATG win under his belt and you have the temerity to put him at 6-10.

                    :bukkake:

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                    • CraigM
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by SBleeder
                      Heck no.


                      1. Ali
                      2. Louis
                      3. Holmes
                      4. Foreman
                      5. Liston
                      6. Frazier
                      7. Johnson
                      8. Lewis
                      9. Marciano
                      10. Holyfield
                      11. Dempsey
                      12. Tyson
                      13. W. Klitschko
                      I'd have this list in a different order but its a good list.

                      Wlad isn't a top 5, the only current heavyweight that could get him close is Vitali and that'll never happen!

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