Froch: "Cleverly is totally insignificant"

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  • stefl14
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    Originally posted by Arsene Knows
    The awkward moment when a supporter of a team in the Championship tries to say a team in the Champions League is insignificant.....
    We are a big fish in a small pool you are a small fish in a big pool. Arsenal shout so much about being in the Champions League but over the years all you've done is regressed and you will never ever win the Champions League. Every year we hear "this year Arsenal will challenge for the title all we need is to buy X, Y and Z and we've got a title challenging squad". What actually happens is you sell your best players and buy mediocre players. By mid-season you are in the scrap for top 4 again. Top 4 is like a ****ing title now for Arsenal lol. You underpay top players and overpay **** players. I don't think Arsenal will ever be a top club again. Say what you want about Leicester but our supporters are true supporters mostly. At an Arsenal ground you find so many people who aren't true supporters it's ridiculous.

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  • Arsene Knows
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    Originally posted by stefl14
    Your club is also insignificant. It is just a mother****ing feeder club like it or not. If you don't know anything about even the championship you don't know **** about football sorry. I likely know more about football and I definitely know more about boxing.
    The awkward moment when a supporter of a team in the Championship tries to say a team in the Champions League is insignificant.....

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  • stefl14
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    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    Who is Groves's best win? retired Johnson? DeGale?

    Maybe they're better wins than Cleverly's equivalent wins at 175 but in the ring do you think Groves beats Cleverly?

    I dislike the way Hearn is trying to push Groves-Froch on the public and I think he's over-estimating the interest in an immediate Froch-Kessler rematch.



    Ward is probably the fight but I don't want to see it either tbh. Saw it already and Froch lost handily, I don't see a rematch being much different regardless of where it is held.

    I'm probably on my own in this but I'd prefer to watch Cleverly, Stieglitz, Oosthuizen and even Hopkins ahead of the "rematches" and I'd rather the DeGale fight over Groves, just my own preference though.
    I'm not necessarily saying Groves beats him head to head but it's not like he's a complete bum. In my view Degale and maybe even Johnson are better than any of Cleverley's opponents thus far, unless you count Bellew as some world beater.

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  • Weebler I
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    Originally posted by stefl14
    George Groves would probably be a better payday lol. Also, it can't be denied that George Groves' best win is probably better than Cleverley's.
    Who is Groves's best win? retired Johnson? DeGale?

    Maybe they're better wins than Cleverly's equivalent wins at 175 but in the ring do you think Groves beats Cleverly?

    I dislike the way Hearn is trying to push Groves-Froch on the public and I think he's over-estimating the interest in an immediate Froch-Kessler rematch.

    Originally posted by Arsene Knows
    I don't think anyone really wants to see either. Andre Ward is the fight but it seems like Froch is maybe just trying to force his hand.
    Ward is probably the fight but I don't want to see it either tbh. Saw it already and Froch lost handily, I don't see a rematch being much different regardless of where it is held.

    I'm probably on my own in this but I'd prefer to watch Cleverly, Stieglitz, Oosthuizen and even Hopkins ahead of the "rematches" and I'd rather the DeGale fight over Groves, just my own preference though.

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  • stefl14
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    Originally posted by Arsene Knows
    I've supported Arsenal since my first memory and I didn't see them win the league till my age was in double digits. When are these "good ole days" you refer to?

    Son, I would tie your arse up in knots talking about the beautiful game. Take it to the football thread and I'll run you out of there in less than 24 hours. I just don't watch BUM leagues that are the equivalent of the Prizefighter competitions. To coin Froch's phrase, your club are insignificant.
    Your club is also insignificant. It is just a mother****ing feeder club like it or not. If you don't know anything about even the championship you don't know **** about football sorry. I likely know more about football and I definitely know more about boxing.

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  • Arsene Knows
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    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    See that would be fine if he wasn't talking about fighting George Groves as the option if Kessler III doesn't go ahead.
    I don't think anyone really wants to see either. Andre Ward is the fight but it seems like Froch is maybe just trying to force his hand.

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  • Arsene Knows
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    Originally posted by stefl14
    Probably because you don't know **** about football. I bet you were an Arsenal glory supporter in the gold ole days and were forced to stay with the team so you don't look like a glory man.
    I've supported Arsenal since my first memory and I didn't see them win the league till my age was in double digits. When are these "good ole days" you refer to?

    Son, I would tie your arse up in knots talking about the beautiful game. Take it to the football thread and I'll run you out of there in less than 24 hours. I just don't watch BUM leagues that are the equivalent of the Prizefighter competitions. To coin Froch's phrase, your club are insignificant.

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  • stefl14
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    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    See that would be fine if he wasn't talking about fighting George Groves as the option if Kessler III doesn't go ahead.
    George Groves would probably be a better payday lol. Also, it can't be denied that George Groves' best win is probably better than Cleverley's.

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  • Weebler I
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    Originally posted by stefl14
    Yep. And he didn't get the Calzaghe fight did he? Get over it. Cleverley is insignificant and has done nothing. There are bigger fish to fry. Cleverley is like Arsenal - decent but not near the top of the tree.
    See that would be fine if he wasn't talking about fighting George Groves as the option if Kessler III doesn't go ahead.

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  • stefl14
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    Originally posted by Arsene Knows
    Get over what? I agree with him, it's just a little hypocritical. Froch is starting to learn the game a little more as he becomes a bigger star and makes money.

    And you're from ***ing Leicester. I don't even know what division you play in.
    Probably because you don't know **** about football. I bet you were an Arsenal glory supporter in the gold ole days and were forced to stay with the team so you don't look like a glory man.

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