Manny Pacquiao chin will no longer be the same, read this about punch resistance

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  • T18Z
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    #41
    Originally posted by hectari
    He was KO but not out cold, he was still awake and he was YOUNGER, you can recover from trauma much better when you are younger. Pacman getting dropped by the same right hand that Marquez landed flush multiple times on him should have been enough to tell us his chin is done. That first knockdown after being hit flush many times and never falling down against Marquez is proof that his chin is no longer the same, the KO at the end is just the final chip to crack the granite open.
    You have no proof for point 1.

    The second point again is not 'proof' of anything, you are acting as if Pacquaio is immune to being knocked down, and if he gets knocked down something 'must' be wrong with him, as opposed to Marquez just improving. You assume everything is to do with Pacquaio and not the opponent, and there lies the problem.

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    • hectari
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      #42
      Originally posted by T18Z
      It's like you totally brushed over the examples people gave of fighters that have came back from being KO'd cold. You are in denial, because you literally won't sway your opinion on the subject even slightly... most are saying lets wait and see, you are acting like you can predict the future and have evidence to back up what you're saying besides anecdotal... this whole denial thing applies to you more than anyone else.

      He's brave as hell for taking the fight because he 'may' be weaker from it, but as I've said you have no scientific evidence whatsoever to back up the claim, and the evidence of previous fighters being KO'd and having there chin cracked gets thrown in the gutter when people give examples other fighters being out cold and coming back fine or better than before.

      Why can't you just say lets wait and see... what is the point of this thread? You expect people to pat you on the back if his chin is weaker? Or you want people to say they were ****** for attempting to follow your logic? Whats the motive, really? The fight has been taken already, he's not going to cancel it because some people are worried about his health or chin. So again, I ask, what's the point? You aren't willing to discuss your opinion because it's not open to change, so this threads worthless.

      I predicted Pacquiao would get knocked out by Marquez in the 4th fight with the same right hand punch!

      And DURAN was never out cold, the guys who were out cold were never the same especially Roy Jones Jr.

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      • T18Z
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        #43
        Originally posted by hectari
        I predicted Pacquiao would get knocked out by Marquez in the 4th fight with the same right hand punch!

        And DURAN was never out cold, the guys who were out cold were never the same especially Roy Jones Jr.
        You give proof that you didn't read my post. I never posted about Duran, go back and read what I wrote. Anyways, good for you that you predicted the KO, doesn't mean any other predictions you make have any weight or proof behind them, so I don't get your point.

        Listen, I'm just saying lets wait and see, we aren't scientists, lets not act like one.

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        • Heru
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          #44
          Self-confidence is a primary component in being able to withstand the punishment that fighters do. Once a fighter is knocked out, they tend to be susceptible to weakening that position that they might've resisted prior to suffering a KO.

          Pacquiao's been stopped in the past and didn't only rebound, but became an even better fighter than he had been up until that point. His mental strength could have been affected, but I doubt it's to an extent that he won't recover as a fighter. If his conditioning routines haven't changed, he is still going to be the force of nature he was before the KO.

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          • buckfangs
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            #45
            Duran definitely was out cold, he just recovered quicker

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            • hectari
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              #46
              Originally posted by T18Z
              You give proof that you didn't read my post. I never posted about Duran, go back and read what I wrote. Anyways, good for you that you predicted the KO, doesn't mean any other predictions you make have any weight or proof behind them, so I don't get your point.

              Listen, I'm just saying lets wait and see, we aren't scientists, lets not act like one.
              Exactly! yet you are trying to discredit a DOCTOR who studies this and went to school and does this for a living.

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              • Disturbed Ninja
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                Hmm, Nelson has been knocked out once earlier though and hasn't been knocked out since. He has taken very brutal shots, floored only couple times. He took huge knees from Werdum but remained standing. or at least I dont remember Werdum dropping him... JDS dropped him couple times though.

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                • hectari
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Disturbed Ninja
                  Hmm, Nelson has been knocked out once earlier though and hasn't been knocked out since. He has taken very brutal shots, floored only couple times. He took huge knees from Werdum but remained standing. or at least I dont remember Werdum dropping him... JDS dropped him couple times though.
                  He was TKO never knocked out cold, when Arlovski knocked him out it wasn;t a knock out, the fight was stopped.

                  A lot different than being iced.

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                  • Big Boy Inc
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                    #49
                    His career is done sadly.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #50
                      Pac has taken punches from the guys like Cotto and Margarito so maybe didn't think JMM could ko him, and was a bit gung ho. Especially haven taking JMMs best punches for 3 fights.

                      So Pac will know he can be ko'ed now, and maybe that's a good thing. He had fought 7 years without being knocked down, so maybe this is a blessing.

                      Anyone can be ko'ed though. Hatton had nearly been ko'ed on a few occasions by Collazo and McGee, before being koed by Floyd. So the fact that Floyd koed hatton isn't such a big surprise considering cortez helped Floyd so much, and Floyd landed quite a bit on hatton.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 06-20-2013, 05:43 PM.

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