Who could Mayweather have beaten to "prove" his greatness to naysayers?

[Brother Jay]

Not all of them, DLH fought everyone in 3 weight classes no questions asked.

I'm not hating on Mayweather, like I said he's the best I have ever seen and I been watching boxing since the early 80's.

DLH most certainly did not.

DLH ducked Vernon Forrest for years as Vernon couldn't get a fight for his life. He was a dangerous prospect at WW and everyone knew it. Mosley would have ducked Forrest as well if he could have but Forrest made a lot of noise about facing Mosley and Shane would have lost face.

DLH also ducked Winky Wright. Winky was a nightmare style for DLH as it was very hard to look good against Winky in his prime. Winky truly beat Vargas and BHOP, but was robbed and left boxing.

DLH also got gift decisions against Quartey(if you saw the fight) and Felix Sturm who outworked DLH easily. Not to mention Sweet Pea.

Even the G.O.A.T. Ray Robinson didn't fight Charley Burley and admitted it in offhanded remarks. As a fan, you should make yourself aware of things before you talk about matters above your understanding.

[straightleft]

[QUOTE=Chuckguy;12208193]

Wow and that was how long ago!? Haha what prime ATg has PAC fought since moving up in weight? None
Oh wait I forgot clottey Bradley and Diaz are atg! Ha

But a former 106 fighter and flyweight champ beating these guy isn't that great? That is the beauty can't compare.

[4Corners]

Judging by some of the responses in this thread, they either A) Have an agenda or B) Haven't been on the sport for more than 2-3 years at the most.

[4Corners]

At 135, Floyd tried to fight Spadafora and Johnston, he still beat Castillo who was the best LW of his era and the top LW there.

At 140, Floyd was suppose to fight Tszyu after Mayweather-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton. tszyu lost to Hatton, who Floyd tried to fight right after that in England at 140 lbs. It was Hatton and his people who said no. That fight happened in 2007 when Hatton was still unbeaten and #8 P4P anyway. Also, Floyd during 2005 called Cotto and his camp out several times. It was Top Rank who didn't try to make that fight, because after Mayweather whupped Gatti, they said "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd". Vivian Harris???? Oh you mean the guy that lost on the Mayweather-Gatti undercard to Carlos Maussa, who Hatton ended up beating, Okay.

At 147, Floyd tried to fight Mosley in 2005-2006, do you forget this??? It was Shane who came up with all the excuses in the world to not fight Floyd. It probably had something to do with Shane's boss, Oscar, wanting the first shot at him. Anyways, they fought when Mosley had stopped Margarito, who was the "man" at 147, and when Msoley was the WBA WW champ/#2 WW/#3 P4P and when everyone wanted that fight. Clottey, Williams, Collazo, and Cintron......you're picking guys that aren't even on that radar during 06-07. Clottey didn't even get a good win until August 2008 against Zab Judah. Williams didn't get a good win until Margarito in Early 2007, and than split with Quintana in 2008. Collazo had a shot to beat Hatton, and though it was a very close fight, Hatton got the nod. Cintron, name one win at 147 where people were saying "Man he should fight Floyd", and I'll wait. Those guys, no one was talking about Floyd fighting those guys, NO ONE at that time. Margarito in 2006, as I stated in my earlier post, was the only one Floyd may have found a way around. It probably had something to do with him splitting from Top Rank and knowing he was in line to fight Oscar.

At 154, Floyd tried to fight Winky Wright actually, but you must not remember that. And by the time 2007 came around, Winky Wright had been at 160 for 2 years. Winky hadn't been at 154 since 2004 moron. Roman and Spinks????? Are you serious???? He could have fought Spinks, but Oscar was still a Top 3 SWW at the time after coming back to stop Mayorga, and was a mega fight. How can you knock Floyd for fighting Oscar when he was the #3 SWW and WBC SWW champ??? Forrest, to be fair, wasn't really on anyone's major radar after he lost twice to Mayorga. And his only notable win at 154 was against Quartey and Baldomir. He wasn't even on the major radar at 154 man.

[D4thincarnation]

2012: Amir Khan 147lbs
2011: Sergio Martinez 154lbs
2010: Manny Pacquiao 147lbs
2009: Paul Williams 154lbs
2008: Miguel Cotto 147lbs
2007: Vernon Forrest 154lbs
2006: Winky Wright 154 lbs
2005: Antonio Margarito 147lbs
2004: Kostya Tszyu 140lbs
2003: Paul Spadafora 135lbs


10 one for every year.


And 3 for luck.

1999: Mosley 135lbs
2013: Lara 154lb
2013: Pirog 160lbs

Could Mayweather win these fight?

I would expect Floyd to lose more than half of them if he took them on.

[S H A R K B O Y]

At 135, Floyd tried to fight Spadafora and Johnston, he still beat Castillo who was the best LW of his era and the top LW there.

At 140, Floyd was suppose to fight Tszyu after Mayweather-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton. tszyu lost to Hatton, who Floyd tried to fight right after that in England at 140 lbs. It was Hatton and his people who said no. That fight happened in 2007 when Hatton was still unbeaten and #8 P4P anyway. Also, Floyd during 2005 called Cotto and his camp out several times. It was Top Rank who didn't try to make that fight, because after Mayweather whupped Gatti, they said "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd". Vivian Harris???? Oh you mean the guy that lost on the Mayweather-Gatti undercard to Carlos Maussa, who Hatton ended up beating, Okay.

At 147, Floyd tried to fight Mosley in 2005-2006, do you forget this??? It was Shane who came up with all the excuses in the world to not fight Floyd. It probably had something to do with Shane's boss, Oscar, wanting the first shot at him. Anyways, they fought when Mosley had stopped Margarito, who was the "man" at 147, and when Msoley was the WBA WW champ/#2 WW/#3 P4P and when everyone wanted that fight. Clottey, Williams, Collazo, and Cintron......you're picking guys that aren't even on that radar during 06-07. Clottey didn't even get a good win until August 2008 against Zab Judah. Williams didn't get a good win until Margarito in Early 2007, and than split with Quintana in 2008. Collazo had a shot to beat Hatton, and though it was a very close fight, Hatton got the nod. Cintron, name one win at 147 where people were saying "Man he should fight Floyd", and I'll wait. Those guys, no one was talking about Floyd fighting those guys, NO ONE at that time. Margarito in 2006, as I stated in my earlier post, was the only one Floyd may have found a way around. It probably had something to do with him splitting from Top Rank and knowing he was in line to fight Oscar.

At 154, Floyd tried to fight Winky Wright actually, but you must not remember that. And by the time 2007 came around, Winky Wright had been at 160 for 2 years. Winky hadn't been at 154 since 2004 moron. Roman and Spinks????? Are you serious???? He could have fought Spinks, but Oscar was still a Top 3 SWW at the time after coming back to stop Mayorga, and was a mega fight. How can you knock Floyd for fighting Oscar when he was the #3 SWW and WBC SWW champ??? Forrest, to be fair, wasn't really on anyone's major radar after he lost twice to Mayorga. And his only notable win at 154 was against Quartey and Baldomir. He wasn't even on the major radar at 154 man.

Pure. Ether.

I want to see someone try and prove 4Corners wrong. Should be good.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Besides the obvious Pacquiao, Margarito and Hatton(at 140).

[SCtrojansbaby]

Besides the obvious Pacquiao, Margarito and Hatton(at 140) maybe defending his belt at 154 against Forrest

[915angel]

At 130 and 135 he beat the best guys their.....at 140 Kostya Tszyu lost his title to Ricky Hatton the same year Floyd beat Gatti....Floyd went on to beat Hatton at 147 after Hatton's team said he wasnt ready yet at 140....

at 147 people claim he ducked Paul Williams and Margarito, but really how is it ducking someone when you are making more money and fighting for the real world title?

Against Baldomir and beating the previous champion in Judah and has the best resume out of any active Welterweight with wins over Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton, and Mitchell....beating two champions mean alot more than beating to contenders, also all risk no reward....

at 154 he beat the number one guy at the weight twice....ODLH and Cotto were the top rated junior middleweights when he fought them


My Picks:

1) Manny Pacquiao: the fight still is a possibility but if Bradley beats Pacquaio chances are the fight wont happen. His closest "percieved" rival

2) Kostya Tszyu: Would have been a great name on his resume but if he had fought him in 2004-2005 and beat him convincingly they'd have just said he was shot or made an excuse

3) Prime Mosley at 135....politics and Mosley chasing ODLH stopped this great match up from happening


at this point outside of beating Martinez at middleweight for the title their isnt nothing left that would prove his greatness or add to his resume

what mayweather has that alot of fighters lack is consistency

Floyd wanted to fight Shane when Shane was still a lightweight but Shane moved up for the bigger prize at that time, which was Oscar at welter and the big payday that came along with that fight. Floyd wasn't really that well known then so you can't blame Shane, it was a business decision, and a smart one too. Roberto Duran did the same thing when he was a lightweight, he went after the big prize in Sugar Ray Leonard at welter rather than the unknown Aaron Pryor at jr. welter, who at that time was calling for a fight with Duran.

In 2006, Floyd called Shane out again but Shane had just had two fights with Fernando Vargas, and was looking forward to taking some time off and getting some dental work that he needed done,

One fighter that I think ducked Floyd is Joel Casamayor. I remember Floyd calling him out after a win at jr. lightweight and Casamayor never responded. Floyd also called out Kostya Tszyu more than once and got nothing.

but to answer your ? he should fight martinez canelo and ill be happy

[therealpugilist]

what mayweather has that alot of fighters lack is consistency

Floyd wanted to fight Shane when Shane was still a lightweight but Shane moved up for the bigger prize at that time, which was Oscar at welter and the big payday that came along with that fight. Floyd wasn't really that well known then so you can't blame Shane, it was a business decision, and a smart one too. Roberto Duran did the same thing when he was a lightweight, he went after the big prize in Sugar Ray Leonard at welter rather than the unknown Aaron Pryor at jr. welter, who at that time was calling for a fight with Duran.

In 2006, Floyd called Shane out again but Shane had just had two fights with Fernando Vargas, and was looking forward to taking some time off and getting some dental work that he needed done,

One fighter that I think ducked Floyd is Joel Casamayor. I remember Floyd calling him out after a win at jr. lightweight and Casamayor never responded. Floyd also called out Kostya Tszyu more than once and got nothing.

but to answer your ? he should fight martinez canelo and ill be happy

alot of people forget before he retired in 07 he was calling out fighters but they had their own agendas. Mosley, Casamayor and Freitas didnt want none and non of them moved to lightweight either until Mayweather was long gone.....He called those guys out in him out for the last time after a fight, said he couldnt make 130 and was moving on to fight Castillo at 135. Floyd aint never ducked nobody, look at his resume.