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  • #61
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Yes Cotto said he wanted the fight at 145lbs.

    And guess what Pacquiao said ok

    Cotto wanted it, he said he could make it, just like Dawson.
    Cotto did NOT want the catchweight he wanted it at the WW limit, the fight almost got called off and before Arum threw him more money,he said he did not want to put his belt on the line for the catchweight.

    Not one source will ever say that Cotto wanted the fight at 145-when he wanted it at the limit of 147...I guess we need to ask why Manny wanted the catchweight though,because he fought Oscar at 147,but didn't have the nuts to extend the same courtesy to the belt holder in Cotto.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by JoeWbbmest311 View Post
        Didn't Dawson call him out and offer to come down to 168?
        Didnt Oscar call PAC out also and offer to come down to 147???

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        • #64
          Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
          Cotto was the champion-why the hell should he chase Pac? If Pac wanted the belt,he should have fought him at Cotto's preferred weight...but Arum threw a little more money at Cotto (even though he said he didn't want to put his title on the line for a catchweight fight) so he could drain another few pounds to let his money maker Pac shine a bit more....

          Then we got the fake JMW vacant title at a catchweight against Margarito-who didn't earn a spot for a title shot in the first place-nor did Manny....shifty business and poor politics just to fake history.

          Now of course,Manny has moved on past catchweights (for now)-he is taking on guys who are 1-2 divisions below him!
          Dawson is also the champion

          Both Dawson and Cotto wanted the money fight.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
            Cotto did NOT want the catchweight he wanted it at the WW limit, the fight almost got called off and before Arum threw him more money,he said he did not want to put his belt on the line for the catchweight.

            Not one source will ever say that Cotto wanted the fight at 145-when he wanted it at the limit of 147...I guess we need to ask why Manny wanted the catchweight though,because he fought Oscar at 147,but didn't have the nuts to extend the same courtesy to the belt holder in Cotto.
            Sorta like how Dimitry Salita was "too tall" for Manny at 5'11 but Margarito wasn't "too tall" at 5'11. At some point you just have to accept this is the kind of stuff manny's diehard fans just will not acknowledge.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              Sorta like how Dimitry Salita was "too tall" for Manny at 5'11 but Margarito wasn't "too tall" at 5'11. At some point you just have to accept this is the kind of stuff manny's diehard fans just will not acknowledge.

              Hell Yuri Foreman was too tall, LOL!!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                Sorta like how Dimitry Salita was "too tall" for Manny at 5'11 but Margarito wasn't "too tall" at 5'11. At some point you just have to accept this is the kind of stuff manny's diehard fans just will not acknowledge.
                Wrong ***ish fighter.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Defututus View Post
                  the thread is about ward/dawson, the whole point is proving your hypocrisy by comparison, dont play dumb, because as ignorant as you are you're not as ****** as speedkillz
                  The TS is jealous that Ward is fighting in his own weight class against LEGIT opponents-something Manny has rarely done lately.While Manny is getting involved in dull fights against old timers and getting schooled by a blown up LW, Ward has won the S6 tournament and topped the division.

                  Dawson called Ward out at SMW, not the other way around-that is fact.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Dawson is also the champion

                    Both Dawson and Cotto wanted the money fight.
                    The money fights are BUte or Pascal 2. The ward fight is more about establishing HBO's next american star when floyd finally retires for real.

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                    • #70
                      I could have already imagine the criticism if Pac would have fought Yuri Foreman

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