All this P.E.D stuff is making me question the history of the sport

[Poet682006]

^^^^^ Steroids in the 1970s

[I Love Jesus!]

HOw do we know this stuff didnt start back in the ALi days, hell maybe even before. What about Foreman, Tyson, Evander, Lennox, Ali, the list goes on. Do you think boxing is tainted now because we will never know who the hell was on "undetected" PED's. Dammit.

Steroids were legal until 1990. That's when they became a controlled substance.

[A-Wolf]

Look at Aaron Pryor. The guy goes down a legend off performances like the Arguello fight, when he was fully hopped up on PED asthma pills.

[I Love Jesus!]

Not sure where you are getting your info but Testosterone was the first synthesized steroid and it's still used today and is by no means "crude" or makes you muscle bound. And in the 80's and even earlier than that, there were still tons of steroids available like tren, deca, winstrol among others. There isn't much available today that wasn't available in the 80's.

The issue is not the steroids, it's ignorance on the part of the people who were using and administrating them, which in this case I have to side with Russian. Dosing plays a big part in what you get out of a steroid, along with how your train and how you diet, and boxing is probably the most ignorant sport in existence even today when it comes to understanding the human body and training principles. In some ways boxing, in respect to strength training is still stuck in the 60's. What the reason for that is, I'm not sure

Because boxing training works for boxing. It's not a contest to see who's the best at exercising.

[A-Wolf]

more honest??why cause they are old school??they cheated they ass off to..they used loaded gloves and put stuff on their gloves,they threw fights for the Mob honest my ass

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[Russian Crushin]

Just roll my ****ing eyes your seriously dense :rolleyes9:

I'm dense?

I'm not the one giving athletes the benefit of the doubt in using drugs. You could give an athlete back them rat poison telling them it would make thier punches .001% higher and they'd take it

Being "dense" is not even imagining athletes at least trying steroids which help Russia tremendously on the 1952 Olympics

[Jack3d]

^^^^^ Steroids in the 1970s

Comparing an olympic lifter to a boxer is an atrocious reach.

And once again this goes back to ignorance of the human body. We know more about training priciples and dieting today that we could have ever dreamed of 40-60 years ago.

What you gain on steroids depends on how much you use (dosing), how you are training and how you eat.

You can take as much of any steroids as you want, if you aren't creating enough of a surplus in calories, you aren't going to gain weight.

[I Love Jesus!]

^^^^^ Steroids in the 1970s

Steroids are the same now as they were then clueless. Name 1 besides Victor contes that u can get now that you couldn't before? And his was about detection not results. The difference now is mega dosing.

[Jack3d]

Because boxing training works for boxing. It's not a contest to see who's the best at exercising.

How would you know that current stone age boxing training is the only way to train for boxing when you refuse to try anything else? Boxing still has their fighters doing hundreds of push-ups, sit-ups and pull-ups. Do you know how little all that translates to a power/endurance sport?

No sport is about who the best is at exercising except for the phaggy time crossfit games on ESPN.

But it's time to wake up and get with the times.

[I Love Jesus!]

How would you know that current stone age boxing training is the only way to train for boxing when you refuse to try anything else? Boxers still have their fighters doing hundred of push-ups, sit-ups and pull-ups. Do you know how little all that translates to a power/endurance sport?

No sport is about who the best is at exercising except for the phaggy time crossfit games on ESPN.

But it's time to wake up and get with the times.

You've never seen boxers train if you think that ******. Go get a membership at a real boxing gym for a while. Be ready to fight in the gym though "power/endurance sport" boy.