Why is Boxing the only Sport where the fans think Past >> Present

[TheGreatA]

I don't think a potential lack of iron bothered Jack Johnson much:




1:25

And when you're talking of Jack Johnson, you're talking of a way different era from a century ago.

You can't compare a Usain Bolt to a runner from 20 years ago, but you have a Bernard Hopkins around in boxing that has fought for over 20 years. I believe that alone shows boxing to be different. Experience and skill can overcome a gap in athleticism and youth.

[AlwaysOnTop]

Yes, the people who insist on that line of thinking are ironically helping to bury the sport and make it extinct, but they don't care. They'd rather see that happen than have to give up their dream world of a past boxing utopia (that never existed).

Says the guy who jocks a soft coward like Bute...LOL

[tesla_power]

To put it simply, take a look at the p4p from 30 years ago and compare it to today's:

1 - Thomas Hearns
2 - Sugar Ray Leonard
3 - Marvin Hagler
4 - Larry Holmes
5 - Alexis Arguello
6 - Wilfredo Gomez
7 - Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
8 - Matt Saad Muhammmad
9 - Wilfred Benitez
10 - Roberto Duran
10 - Aaron Pryor

Can anyone in their right mind claim that today's line-up looks better?

1. Manny Pacquiao (33 years old)
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (34 years old)
3. Sergio Martinez (36 years old)
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Andre Ward
6. Juan Manuel Marquez (38 years old)
7. Wladimir Klitschko (35 years old)
8. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (34 years old)
9. Timothy Bradley
10. Vitali Klitschko (40 years old)

What was once considered a "young man's game" seems to dominated by older men who have been around for decades.

We can't claim this for another sport.

That is sick. Never thought on how if could be presented like this before.

[Danny Gunz]

You don't know shi.t from shoe polish.

Old school fighter DID LIFT WEIGHTS they just didn't over-do it...Why is that so hard to understand?????????????

Weight lifting doesn't seem to be helping modern fighters..especially trash like Berto..

Jack Johnson drank PURE water...breathed PURE air...and ate PURE food...He didn't need a fa.g like Ariza for anything.

If you're basing your argument on scabs like Pacman and Berto you're actually making my case for me....lol


I don't see any fighters today more "effective" than the guys in the 15 round days...especially Berto and Nanny sue...

NONE of what you say has produced a better fighter...not ONE...

Here I'am thinking I will have an intelligent conversation, what was I thinking...

You asked me for examples of new training, and I gave you examples of new training.

[Lucky Jim]

The sport has also become less popular, especially in the United States. No longer does every young person strive to be the heavyweight champion when there are other less dangerous and higher paying lines of work available in sports, which may not have been the case decades ago.

The NFL, NBA, and MLB, etc., were around and popular and lucrative in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s.

The idea that these other sports just suddenly started siphoning off all the US heavyweight boxing talent when Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos showed up is absurd.

What really happened is that the fall of the Soviet Union had the inevitable effect of freeing East European heavyweights from former Soviet bloc countries to compete professionally. And the rest is history. The United States will never again dominate the heavyweight division the way it did in the past.

Never again.

[Mr.0pal]

Another fool talking out his azz.

Name some of these modern fighters that could tear through the old school...

Taking vitamins doesn't make you better..skills pay bills...

Today's guys can't even fight on the inside....let alone BOB AND WEAVE..

[AlwaysOnTop]

The NFL, NBA, and MLB, etc., were around and popular and lucrative in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s.

The idea that these other sports just suddenly started siphoning off all the US heavyweight boxing talent when Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos showed up is absurd.

What really happened is that the fall of the Soviet Union had the inevitable effect of freeing East European heavyweights from former Soviet bloc countries to compete professionally. And the rest is history. The United States will never again dominate the heavyweight division they way it did in the past.

Never again.

The great soviet heavies.....KTFO in the weakest era EVER.

Walked down and forced to QUIT by Chris Byrd....KO'd by part-time golfers and bloated journeymen like the dreaded Ross Purrity....LOL


The russians will NEVER produce GREATNESS

[AlwaysOnTop]

Here I'am thinking I will have an intelligent conversation, what was I thinking...

You asked me for examples of new training, and I gave you examples of new training.

You gave me Andre Berto...lol

That scab gets tired and falls in for a clinch after 3 punches...His modern methods ain't doin shi.t for him..

[AlwaysOnTop]

Stop laughing and name some of these modern murderers than could steamroll throw the HOF..

Who beats Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns...

Laugh thru that..

[Danny Gunz]

You gave me Andre Berto...lol

That scab gets tired and falls in for a clinch after 3 punches...His modern methods ain't doin shi.t for him..

I wasnt saying Berto beats all of the old school fighters I was just using Berto as a context to show new training methods. Ward works with the same people as Berto, maybe he is a better example.

And btw the methods in the video are scientifically proven to be more effective.