Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: Vitali is Better, I'd Knock Wladimir Out

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  • megas30
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    #91
    The tricky thing about this is if he were to make a come back who would he train with, considering his loyalty to Manny steward and steward now loyal to Wlad?

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    • hillbilly
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      #92
      Originally posted by Steak
      http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/25/sp...klitschko.html


      If that was not a legit cut stoppage, then cut stoppages should not exist in boxing. I cant think of many worse period, none off the top of my head.
      That was a good cut stoppage certainly. His cheek looked horrific. It would have been a travesty to jeopardize his career by allowing him to continue.

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      • edgarg
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        #93
        Originally posted by Steak
        pictures or video?
        He made a special TV appearance so as to show that his eye had already healed and that there was NO sign of even a scar. He used those words. "only 10 days after the fight", and there was a close up of his eyebrow, even. I have it somewhere amongst a couple of hundred 6-8 hour videos.

        He was still banking on Lewis giving him the promised return and December 6th. was chosen as the date. Lewis had already been talking that the "eye" (eyebrow) wa so bad that it would not be healed and that HE, Lewis did not want to defraud the fans by an even quicker stoppage this time because of the "eye". {He made klitschko travel to London to be examined by Lewis's eye specialist to make sure}. This TV appearance was to lay all this talk to rest. It's all on the public record.

        But as you see, it was ignored, as if it never happened, and the talk still goes on, about eyes hanging down on cheeks, faces smashed to ribbons etc. By the way I saw only 3 facial cuts including the eyebrow. (2 slight scratches under the left eye).

        I suppose you know that the first reason the doctor gave for stopping the fight was that when standing over Klitschko in his corner, he asked him to "look up' and he didn't. from this the dr concluded that Klitschko's eyelid control was gone because of severed nerves and that be w\as basically "ONE _EYED", couldn't see, and that's why he stopped the fight.

        Since he was standing right over Klitschko, with his belt practically pressed against Klitschko's face, I don't see how Klitschko could have looked up, the corner was crowded with a babel of 3-4 languages shouting at the same time....... I'd bet even money that Klitschko (who's English was very bad then) never even heard nor understood the doctor.

        The fact that he jumped up when he understood the fight had been stopped because of his blind eye, is evidence enough for me that he was NOT sight impaired. His eyes were BOTH wide open, and he kept shouting out .."I can see, I can see, I can see wer' vell.."

        The poor guy was robbed of his much wanted title. he'd been a top contender for the past year and Lewis was dodging him, and he'd been treating Lewis with Continental courtesy, as a gentleman. He was outraged and that's why he kept after Lewis for years after he chased Lewis into retirement.

        Atr least there can be no doubt about THAT.

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          #94
          Lewis just mad the bros are the best hw and will be considered higher then him

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            #95
            Originally posted by uglypug
            so you honestly think that win was just as good or impressive as if he won a decision, or TKO or KO'd him?

            smh. . .
            I am a huge Klit bros fan and I hate to break the news to you but the stoppage was legit and Lewis won fair and square. Honestly I don't know what fight you watched but half of Vitali's face was hanging off. As for Lennox beating Wlad. Well, Wlad was never knocked cold by one punch and Lennox was. And I know without a doubt that Wlad has more power them Rahman, McCall and even his bro Vitali. And he is also a much better boxer then Vit. So there ain't no way it would be an easy fight for either of them.

            And I also truly believe that the whole "Wlad has a glass jaw" scenario has been blown way out of proportion. Simply because Wlad was winning two of those fights easily when he gassed. And the stoppage was based more on the fact that he was gassed and not because he has a glass jaw. And anyone who has even the slightest bit of boxing knowledge, and will be honest, understands this.

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            • hillbilly
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              #96
              Originally posted by AKATheMack
              The Purrity fight was an obvious fluke and I like Ross hes a trainer in my hometown, but different league of fighters. Brewster got beat up in every round against Wladimir except the round he scored the stoppage in, its obvious Wladimir was the much better fighter. The only rematch I would have been interested in is Sanders, but Lennox showed even less desire to fight Sanders than Wlad did. I think Lewis is better than Wlad, but he was just as guilty of the jab, jab, grab as Wlad is and had the same questions regarding chin.
              this post sums up my feelings about this subject perfectly. Sanders legitimately wiped the floor with Klitschko. The other two were fights in which Klitschko dominated but ran completely out of gas and got stopped against iron chinned opponents who took massive beatings. And, my understanding is Lewis' camp was offered the opportunity to fight Sanders on more than 1 occasion and wanted nothing to do with him. A fast handed south paw with thunderous power and a good chin? Sanders would have done to Lewis what he did to Wladimir. Styles make fights and Sanders' style and skill set was terrible for both Lewis and Wladimir.

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                #97
                Originally posted by edgarg
                I wonder why-and how_ a doctor can violate the Hippocritic Oath and dish out personal medical information to a newspaper reporter without leaving himself open for severe penalties from the Medical Council, as well as Civil financial penalties??
                I beg your pardon...."hippocratic".

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                • hillbilly
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by edgarg
                  I beg your pardon...."hippocratic".
                  Hippocratic oath has nothing to do with "dish[ing] out personal medical information[.]" Doctor didn't violate it by talking to a reporter. Moreover, fighters certainly waive any confidentiality to fight doctors when they get into the ring, either expressly (depending on the forum) or implicitly (so he can do his job and report back to the referee, commission, corner, etc).

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                  • edgarg
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                    WRONG

                    Lewis found it easier fighting people near his own height, he could throw bombs and fight more openly.

                    Michael Grant took a career beating, he never was the same again

                    Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, Tyrell Biggs, Glenn McCrory, to name but a few

                    Vitali also took one hell of a beating
                    Michael Grant was deliberately fouled by a Lewis "special" The head grabbed down behind the neck to meet the uppercut on the way up. I, AND YOU, have seen Lewis do this a hundred times in all his fights. Grant was green and this FOUL caused the first KD which virtually finished the fight.

                    the actual result of the Grant fight should have been a Lewis DQ.

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                    • FrankieBruno
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      Michael Grant was deliberately fouled by a Lewis "special" The head grabbed down behind the neck to meet the uppercut on the way up. I, AND YOU, have seen Lewis do this a hundred times in all his fights. Grant was green and this FOUL caused the first KD which virtually finished the fight.

                      the actual result of the Grant fight should have been a Lewis DQ.
                      Grant was KO'd numerous times in that fight by Lewis uppercuts

                      He landed some big shots on Leiws, but they did no harm...Lewis outclassed him

                      His chin kept caving into the uppercut, the same punch which had Vitali holding on for dear life, before the fight was stopped

                      That uppercut is Lewis most deadly punch, Grants chin simply could not handle it. Wlad would also drop just like Grant, both have shaky chins.

                      You can make whatever excuse you want, the sport of boxing is never clean

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