Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: Vitali is Better, I'd Knock Wladimir Out

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  • JAB5239
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    #51
    Originally posted by MCCCXXXIII
    Nonsense as a ‘great heavyweight champion’ and at the age of 38 Lewis earned every right to retire on his terms.

    Again Lewis was asked a question by an interviewer (it’s what they do) Lewis gave his opinion its not like Lewis went out of his way to disrespect the Klits.

    I think you will find most people agree with Lewis.

    Good post! I was talking to another poster yesterday and made the exact same observation about Wlad fighting the way he does. He simply has no confidence in his ability to take a punch.

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    • UglyPug
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      #52
      Originally posted by MCCCXXXIII
      I know what your saying but its not like Lewis fought on and avoided Vitali Lewis Knew he was fading and wanted to get out of the sport I honestly don’t think his heart was in it at that point in his career after he had already proved himself as great and accumulated millions and millions in the process.
      i can roll with that. . . i guess it's just the way lennox acted post fight about the situation. but like you said when boxers have cameras on them and it's the heat of the moment they are going to say whatever makes them sound the best. all boxers have too much pride to admit that another fighter could beat them.

      and slick, no, i do not think lennox's "win" over vitali should be looked at on par with a REAL TKO win. . .

      **** it, it is what it is. . . there is unfinished business that will always remain unfinished. . .

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      • slick1two
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        #53
        Originally posted by uglypug
        i can roll with that. . . i guess it's just the way lennox acted post fight about the situation. but like you said when boxers have cameras on them and it's the heat of the moment they are going to say whatever makes them sound the best. all boxers have too much pride to admit that another fighter could beat them.

        and slick, no, i do not think lennox's "win" over vitali should be looked at on par with a REAL TKO win. . .

        **** it, it is what it is. . . there is unfinished business that will always remain unfinished. . .
        yeah in your mind and all the other deluded vitali fans out there. The next time a fighter totally cuts up and batters another fighter with legal scoring punches and the ref decides to stop the fight, make sure you wax lyrical and throw tantrums about the decision.

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        • UglyPug
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          #54
          Originally posted by slick1two
          yeah in your mind and all the other deluded vitali fans out there. The next time a fighter totally cuts up and batters another fighter with legal scoring punches and the ref decides to stop the fight, make sure you wax lyrical and throw tantrums about the decision.

          so you honestly think that win was just as good or impressive as if he won a decision, or TKO or KO'd him?

          smh. . .

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          • Check_hooks
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            #55
            Lewis wouldn't be able to fight inside because Wlad's very careful and steps back and clinches if you get close.

            If Lewis got sloppy and threw wild hayemakes it would be a easy fight for Wlad because all you need in boxing if you have superior reach and timing is a 1-2.

            Wlad today would beat Lewis's ass in his prime easily.

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            • JAB5239
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              #56
              Originally posted by tennis-legend
              lennox won the vitali fight but he owed him a rematch

              when the crowd boos you out of a ring you dont retire like that

              unless you dont think you're going to win

              lennox was too great a champ to go out like that

              he was like fine wine- he got much better in his 30s
              The crowd wasn't booing Lewis, they were booing the decision to stop the fight. Klitschko proved he wasn't a the quitter he was labeled after the Byrd debacle and the crowd wanted him to continue.

              Why NOT retire then? Lewis knew he wasn't at his fighting best anymore. Even if he came back and beat Vitaly again people would have just been calling for him to fight Wlad. He retired as champion. That is something few ever do and should be commended.

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              • UglyPug
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                #57
                im still waiting for you to name me another situation like this like you assured me. . .

                i don't know how you can act like a tko win on cuts is comparable to actually beating the guy over 12 rounds, or stopping the guy. . .

                but please name me a situation where a boxer was losing on the scorecards, won on cuts, and never rematched and didn't catch hell. . . you made it out like it happens all the time in boxing

                not you MCC - we are cool - we have managed to reach common ground. it's this slick character who was going on like "this happens all the time". NO, it doesn't. . . usually if a fighter wins on cuts and doesn't grant a rematch is because either nobody cares about seeing the fight again OR the guy was clearly winning on the scorecards.
                Last edited by UglyPug; 07-14-2011, 08:06 AM.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
                  With all due respect,Mr Lewis,you had more than enough time to prove your superiority over Wladimir while you were active.The fact that you never pushed for the fight leads me to believe that you weren't as confident in your ability to defeat Wladimir then as you seem to be now.

                  Check your time line. The only time that fight could have come off was 2002 and Lewis had the mega pay day with Tyson. Wlad was knocked by Sanders the next year and there was no call for it before than.

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                  • slick1two
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by uglypug
                    im still waiting for you to name me another situation like this like you assured me. . .

                    i don't know how you can act like a tko win on cuts is comparable to actually beating the guy over 12 rounds, or stopping the guy. . .

                    but please name me a situation where a boxer was losing on the scorecards, won on cuts, and never rematched and didn't catch hell. . . you made it out like it happens all the time in boxing

                    not you MCC - we are cool - we have managed to reach common ground. it's this slick character who was going on like "this happens all the time". NO, it doesn't. . . usually if a fighter wins on cuts and doesn't grant a rematch is because either nobody cares about seeing the fight again OR the guy was clearly winning on the scorecards.
                    Are you thick? there are cut stoppages due to headbutts, and their are cut stoppages based on landing effective scoring punches on your opponent and causing damage. Do you not understand that there is a difference between the two?? one is based on landed punches which in the sport of boxing is what you aim to do. The other is either an accident butt or fouls if deliberate. Both cases tarnish the win. In the case of this fight, Lewis pretty much damaged up Vitali's face, and messed up his eye. A doctor had no choice but to that due to serious injury caused by Lewis' work, had to be stopped.

                    Nothing at all wrong with that IMO. And it's satisfactory enough because punches were landed by Lewis and doing damage, **** sake, nothing out of the ordinary here at all. And nothing to cry about.

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                    • prinzemanspopa
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by MCCCXXXIII
                      Why would Lewis have to push for a fight with Wlad lol that’s not how boxing works.

                      That’s like saying why isn’t Floyd pushing for a fight with Amir Khan, its the guy that is stepping up in comp that has to push the fight not the top dog don’t be so ridiculous.


                      Considering Amir Khan and Floyd Mayweather don't even fight in the same weight class,that's a poor comparison.Wladimir was rated as the second best heavyweight in the world before he lost to Sanders,and,at that time,it was the best possible matchup to make within the heavyweight division.

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