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  • Originally posted by number6 View Post
    How does Holyfield get above him on the list
    Holyfield wasn't taken out early twice by second rate fighters when he had the title. He also fought two of the other top four fighters of the era, Bowe and Tyson, when it meant something. The only great fighters Lewis fought - Holyfield and Tyson, were aging greats on the downside by the time he got around to facing them.

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    • Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity View Post
      because by the time he fought holyfield he was past his prime even if you take holyfield off Sonny liston has a good arguement of being ranked before him. I am a fan Lennox don't get me wrong but those two KO's by nobodies will forever hurt his legacy
      Evanders prime was more than likely at cruiserweight imo. He beat an aging Foreman and Holmes, Buster looked washed up and he was almost ko'd by Bert Cooper at heavyweight.

      Dont get me wrong he did have some very good wins behind him, Tyson was a huge win because most thought he was past it at the time, Mercer was a good win, Moorer and Bowe were impressive names to have on the list too (even if he did lose to them as well)

      Lewis has a much better resume at heavyweight despite the 2 losses which he avenged, believe at or not i was a big Holy fan at the time he and Lewis faught. I was rooting for Evander, but looking back at the level of competition they faced i dont think its even close.

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      • Originally posted by Zakman View Post
        Holyfield wasn't taken out early twice by second rate fighters when he had the title. He also fought two of the other top four fighters of the era, Bowe and Tyson, when it meant something. The only great fighters Lewis fought - Holyfield and Tyson, were aging greats on the downside by the time he got around to facing them.
        good point/post

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        • Originally posted by Zakman View Post
          Holyfield wasn't taken out early twice by second rate fighters when he had the title. He also fought two of the other top four fighters of the era, Bowe and Tyson, when it meant something. The only great fighters Lewis fought - Holyfield and Tyson, were aging greats on the downside by the time he got around to facing them.
          Take a look at who he chose to defend against when he won the title.

          Foreman and Holmes were well past it, Cooper came in as a replacement and almost ko'd him and Moorer schooled him.

          He also lost twice to Bowe by the way.

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          • yeah, top 10 atg for sure.

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            • Yes...6-10, he's in there for sure

              Not in Order, but Ali, Louis, Holmes, Johnson, Charles cracks my top 5

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              • Originally posted by Parody View Post
                http://www.lennoxlewis.com/lennox/


                Is Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis one of the greatest Heavyweights of his era?

                Lennox Lewis has a very good resume:


                Gary Mason:

                Lennox Lewis beat the Undefeated Gary Mason in Round 7 via TKO, Mason has only 1 Loss in his career which was to Lewis, His current Record is 37-1 (34 Knockouts). (He Knocked out Tyrell Biggs & James Pritchard)


                Glen McCrory:

                Lennox Lewis Knocked Out the Former IBF Cruiserweight Champion/
                Commonwealth Champion in Round 2 of the Scheduled 12 Rounds.


                Tyrell Biggs:

                Lewis Knocked out the Olympics Gold Medalist 3 times in Round 3 which was forced to an automatic stoppage. (Tyson done it in Round 7)

                Donovan Ruddock:

                It took only 2 Rounds for Lennox Lewis to Win the Commonwealth
                Title and Eliminator to the WBC Heavyweight Title, He floored Ruddock in Round 1 and then Twice in Round 2. (Lewis became WBC Champ after this fight Because Bowe refused to fight him.)

                Tony Tucker:

                TNT Had a very good chin, but it was exposed to Lewis, when he knocked him out in the 3rd and 9th round, however TNT got up on his feet and showed his heart, his courage, and Lewis won a Decision and made his first defence of the WBC Title.

                Frank Bruno:

                This was one of my favourite fights, Lewis beat Bruno down with a 7th Round TKO, Bruno who was warned for Holding and hitting, could'nt do anything after the 6th Round, he was tired and having rough night.

                Tommy Morrison:

                The former WBO Champion Morrison who beat Foreman and Ruddock, (Out of Primes) was fighting for the IBC Title, and Lennox gave him (What I would call a) one sided ass whooping until referee
                Mills Lane stopped the bout 1:22 seconds of the 6th Round.

                Ray Mercer:

                Mercer was known for his Chin, No one could Knockout a Prime Mercer, the former WBO Heavyweight Champ, Probably not even a Prime Tyson, Lennox Lewis won a Majority decision against a Prime Mercer Which was deserving but not satisfying, (Some people say Controversial) but Lewis still had a win at the end of the day in his resume, and i had him 1 round ahead, it was a confusion like Hopkins/Taylor with half believing Lewis won and half believing Mercer, I would call it as a draw, but in the books Lennox won.

                Oliver McCall:

                After his Shocking Loss to McCall, Lewis showed Heart, He wanted a rematch and revenge! to Prove he is capable of beating any fighter of his era and he did prove it after Knocking out the hard chin Oliver McCall in the 5th Round.

                Henry Akinwande:

                I was'nt Impressed by this fight because Lewis was winning but Henry kept holding and hitting and he was warned many times, he was a undefeated fighter at that time he lost via Disqualification but Lewis was ahead in the fight as judges scored it 40-35 at the time of the Disqualification. (Reminds me of Tyson biting Holyfields ear after he knew he was losing)

                Andrew Golota:

                At this time Golota was a fierce fighter, after Brain damaging
                Rid**** Bowe, beating the living hell out of him twice and he took a fight with Lennox Lewis, which he lost by a 1st Round Knockout, The fight finished early as Golota was unable to beat the count.

                Shannon Briggs:

                Highrated Contender Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs lost to Lewis via
                a 5th round TKO, because he was knocked out 3 times in the 5th, which forced it to be an Automatic stoppage, Shannon Improved after he fought Lewis, and is currently a Contender, after having 10 victories straight all of them by knockouts.

                Evander Holyfield 1 & 2:

                The first fight was a controversial decision, because Lewis had won the fight but the judges scored it as a draw, Holyfield was doing better in the opening rounds, but he gassed out, he tried to Knock Lewis out but he could'nt, and later on lewis took the rounds and won a close fight but it was called a draw, However in the second fight Lennox Lewis won a Unanimous Decision over Holyfield.

                Michael Grant:

                This guy was Undefeated, and the media started giving him a lot of attention after he beat legit contenders and everyone started
                talking about how good he is, until Lewis Knocked him out 2 times
                in the Opening round and once in the Second round and he couldnt
                beat the count, he got exposed against Lewis.

                Francois Botha:

                Highrated South African Contender, lost to Lennox Lewis in the Second Round of the fight. (He also had 2 controversial draws with Briggs and Etienne)

                David Tua:

                Has never been knocked down in his career, This Samoa Boxer has a
                damn hard chin, and knocked out some of the best Contenders/ Ex
                Champions. (Rahman, Ruiz & Maskaev)..But lost to Lewis by a
                Decision (119-109,118-110,117-111), Lewis gave Tua his best shots
                but Tua can take the best shots from anyone and still put up a good fight.

                Hasim Rahman:

                After the big Upset by Hasim Rahman, Rahman gave Lewis a rematch, and Lewis had to Prove this time his Lucky Punch wont work, and he was Lucky that it worked last time, Lewis Knocked Rahman Out in the 4th Round (1 Round Earlier than Rahman)

                Mike Tyson:

                This was the Match everyone was waiting for and it happened, Tyson was a feared fighter,but Lennox Lewis was a brave fighter, He Knocked Mike Tyson out in the 8th Round of the fight, To gain Respect of many fans.

                Vitali Klitschko:

                This was Lennox's last fight, He stopped Vitali Klitschko with an
                Uppercut, that caused Klitschko a deep cut and the ringside
                physician stopped the fight, which Lewis won by TKO in the 6th.


                I think overall he has a very good resume and destroyed the good
                fighters of his era, Only 2 Losses and he gained revenge on both
                of them and won both.

                Lewis has a Record of 41-2 (32 Knockouts) and is Rated the Best
                British Heavyweight on the Record Books and Websites

                He has only 2 losses from Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall
                which he got revenge on both with stunning knockouts.

                I personally think he is the greatest heavyweight hes fought the
                greatest fighters and hes beat the greatest fighters.



                IMO he is. Lennox could box, punch and had one of the best right hands and Jab I've ever seen. He had one punch KO power and one of the best uppercuts in heavyweight history. He is one of the few heavyweights in history to not only retire as champion, but beat every man he ever faced. He fought the best of his era and was clearly ducked by Rid**** Bowe. Yes, he is top 10.

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                • lewis had a stunning knockout over mccall? lets not exaggerate too much now. mccall starting crying and the ref stopped the fight. i guess that's stunning in how funny it is.

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                  • Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    lewis had a stunning knockout over mccall? lets not exaggerate too much now. mccall starting crying and the ref stopped the fight. i guess that's stunning in how funny it is.
                    Exactly. People act like it's some big deal he beat McCall. In the mental condition McCall was in virtually ANYONE would have beaten him that night.

                    Lewis also got a VERY debatable decision vs. Ray Mercer, never faced Bowe, and like I said, faced old versions of Holyfield, and particularly, Tyson. He is greatly overrated by many boxing fans.

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                    • Originally posted by number6 View Post
                      How does Holyfield get above him on the list
                      I probably wouldnt put holy above lewis but I dont think its outrageous to suggest so. holy was past it when lewis beat him and holy had better wins than lewis. he beat a much fresher tyson and has foreman on his resume. lewis's biggest wins were over the rusty old tyson and past a past it holyfield. holy tarnished some of his standing by fighting on way too long. he should have retired after the first tyson fight and he'd have had more clout as being an atg

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