Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: No Way Will Haye Win on Points, KO Only

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Lennox Lewis has warned David Haye he must knock Wladimir Klitschko out on Saturday because there is "no way" the judges will award him a points win in Germany.

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[ChopperRead]

Sure Lennox. How many questionable points decisions have the Klitschkos ever gotten?

Answer: none. They usually knock people out anyway.

[Gumby McPokey]

The Haye side has been moaning about referees and judges for two years now. It seems plain he's considering the fight plan he used against Valuev -- run and run, and hope a few weak punches per round is enough for a decision.

Speaking of the Valuev fight -- Haye went into his "back yard", didn't knock him out, didn't even dominate, and still won the decision. So the Hayeboys don't have a leg to stand on. Certainly there is no shortage of terrible decisions in the history of title fights, but they're the exception, not the rule.

If Haye tries the Eddie Chambers fight plan, he's going to be on the end of a 120-108 decision, or a late-round KO. He could try to keep Wladimir backing up, as Calvin Brock tried, with some success. (I had that fight either 3-3 or 4-2 for Wladimir through 6; it was pretty harsh of the judges to give only one round to Brock.) Brock was getting shots at Wladimir, but didn't have the variety to make it effective, nor the stamina to do it all fight.

I just hope Haye comes to fight, not just to duck and cover and run and collect a fat paycheque he doesn't deserve.

[ChopperRead]

The Haye side has been moaning about referees and judges for two years now. It seems plain he's considering the fight plan he used against Valuev -- run and run, and hope a few weak punches per round is enough for a decision.

Speaking of the Valuev fight -- Haye went into his "back yard", didn't knock him out, didn't even dominate, and still won the decision. So the Hayeboys don't have a leg to stand on. Certainly there is no shortage of terrible decisions in the history of title fights, but they're the exception, not the rule.

If Haye tries the Eddie Chambers fight plan, he's going to be on the end of a 120-108 decision, or a late-round KO. He could try to keep Wladimir backing up, as Calvin Brock tried, with some success. (I had that fight either 3-3 or 4-2 for Wladimir through 6; it was pretty harsh of the judges to give only one round to Brock.) Brock was getting shots at Wladimir, but didn't have the variety to make it effective, nor the stamina to do it all fight.I just hope Haye comes to fight, not just to duck and cover and run and collect a fat paycheque he doesn't deserve.

Brock caught a steelhammer right to the chin that effectively ended his boxing career, though he fought once or twice after that.

[UglyPug]

I thought Lennox said the other day to use the valuev strategy or some nonsense?

lewis is just babbling on

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I thought Lennox said the other day to use the valuev strategy or some nonsense?

lewis is just babbling on

u ever heard lennox commentate? Hes an idiot lol ..

[Gumby McPokey]

Brock caught a steelhammer right to the chin that effectively ended his boxing career, though he fought once or twice after that.

Yeah, that fight changed very quickly. I don't remember what order everything happened, but I remember two main things:
1) Brock's corner told him to catch Wladimir's jab and then go in. This totally didn't work; as he stopped moving around so much, Wladimir was able to start stepping into his jab, and Brock took a huge number of them in the face.
2) an accidental butt opened a cut under Wladimir's eyebrow. He knew he had better get on with it, and really went after Brock. When he started throwing the 3-2 combination Steward had been urging him to throw, it worked big time. Brock took a couple of huge rights.

Brock had been doing a good job of keeping Wladimir from getting set, and working punches to his body. A stronger fighter with good stamina might be able to make this work well enough to take a well-earned decision.

[ChopperRead]

I thought Lennox said the other day to use the valuev strategy or some nonsense?

lewis is just babbling on

Lennox is kind of a dumbass and not consistent with his remarks at all.

Maybe German judges are terrible, as he says, but so are American judges: I guess he missed the Alexander - Matthysse debacle.

[Gumby McPokey]

u ever heard lennox commentate? Hes an idiot lol ..

Vladimir Nabokov once said, "I think like a genius, I write like a distinguished author, and I speak like a child." I think you could say something of the sort about Lennox Lewis. In the ring, he was pretty brilliant -- but in the commentary booth he is such an idiot you'd swear he'd never watched boxing.

[ChopperRead]

Yeah, that fight changed very quickly. I don't remember what order everything happened, but I remember two main things:
1) Brock's corner told him to catch Wladimir's jab and then go in. This totally didn't work; as he stopped moving around so much, Wladimir was able to start stepping into his jab, and Brock took a huge number of them in the face.
2) an accidental butt opened a cut under Wladimir's eyebrow. He knew he had better get on with it, and really went after Brock. When he started throwing the 3-2 combination Steward had been urging him to throw, it worked big time. Brock took a couple of huge rights.

Brock had been doing a good job of keeping Wladimir from getting set, and working punches to his body. A stronger fighter with good stamina might be able to make this work well enough to take a well-earned decision.

It took Wlad a few rounds to get the jab working, but when he did, it was just a matter of time. I was there and will never forget the "thud" of Brock's body hitting the canvas in MSG.