HORUS PRESENTS: PACQUIAO "You Failed" WHY Last Night did more Harm than Good!

[KingTito]

Why would you even compare these fights? Mayweather fans go to any lengths and try to find reasons to say he is greater than Pacquiao, when the fact is, we won't know until they fight. The truth of the matter is, if they never fight, Pacquiao will go down as the greater fighter, and *****s can't handle that. Pacquiao is the man in boxing now, not Floyd. I'm sorry. To reply to the thread, Pacquiao damn near had Shane out and on ***** street with that 3rd round KD. Mosley didn't even engage with Pacquiao and spent the whole fight running afraid of Pacquiao's power and aggression. He fought Mayweather nothing like that. Did Mayweather make Mosley literally afraid of him? No, he didn't. How could Pacquiao fight a guy who is constantly back peddling?

[.Sakuragi.]

Whos pace was the fight fought at?
Who distance was the fight fought at?

Please explain how I am wrong, and not used absolute statements.

The distance was there because SSM was backpedaling the fight after the KD.

Pac was searching the whole fight. Mosley was not punching Pac (He was merely just waiting there to throw that right hook but he cant set up because Pacquiao was all searching and pac's power caused him to be more defensive minded) and didnt had to use a lot of head movement. Clearly pacquiao was not able to find him because pacquiao was not moving side to side and did not use a lot footwork.

[Godsent]

You gave the same argument. So i gave the same answer.

At the end of the day, The fight was fought at Mosley Pace and Distance.
Pacquiao fought frustrated, confuse, and timid.

Al bertien accurately called out that Manny footwork was awful.

He came in a straight lines, very few in and out combinations, and the performance was just bad.

REASON: Mosley’s JAB, Mosley counter RIGHT HAND, and Mosley movement.

Mosley Jab controlled the distance.
Mosley Threat of his right hand Control Pacquiao Pace!
Mosley movement frustrated pacquiao

All the excuses do not take away from the simple truth that Pacquiao has trouble with Movement. And looked bad.

@bold

so that wasn't the effect of pac's leg cramps?

Mosley's jab controlled the distance? the answer is no.. his running did... maybe if Mosley's arm length were 100 feet then your statement would be correct

we never saw pac fight in a slow pace just like last night... i noticed that in the mid rounds... he was being honest during the post fight interview... i think pac lied when he said he had those cramps since the Marquez fight.

[Horus]

The distance was there because SSM was backpedaling the fight after the KD.

Pac was searching the whole fight. Mosley was not punching Pac (He was merely just waiting there to throw that right hook but he cant set up because Pacquiao was all searching and pac's power caused him to be more defensive minded) and didnt had to use a lot of head movement. Clearly pacquiao was not able to find him because pacquiao was not moving side to side and did not use a lot footwork.

Lets try this again:

Whos pace was the fight fought at? Mosley's or Pacquiao
Who distance was the fight fought at? Mosley's or Pacquiao

Do not justify why this happen before you give answer to the original question.

Please answer the question before you make excuses.

[.Sakuragi.]

Lets try this again:

Whos pace was the fight fought at? Mosley's or Pacquiao
Who distance was the fight fought at? Mosley's or Pacquiao

Do not justify why this happen before you give answer to the original question.

Please answer the question before you make excuses.

My post says it's Pacquiao and my reasons are on my last post.

Im making excuses? wtf. I didnt say any **** about Pacquiao having cramps didnt I?

[HighFlyer]

for me PAC VS floydie is an easy work for PAC.
if u understimate PAC's power u will be battered brutally
if u overstimate PAC's power u will be scared to death

FACT: Floydie will be 4x as scared as Mosley on Fightnight, that will be the most boring boxing fight ever, PAc's next opponents must be a daredevil

[Medved]

I think Horus is a fat middle aged white dude who has nothing better to do than troll forums.

Go sell some crack brah

[AeKhuban]

You ask question. If one answer you then you will not believe it.
You just said Manny walking straight line. Is that equal to right hand threat from Mosley? Mosley movement is just backpedaling and backpedaling is not Mosley pace. Mosley fight at the distance simply because he don't want to be caught again. Atleast he still had the pride of not being knock out in the fight. Win or Loose boxers had explanation but if it came from Pacquaio it just an excuse. Do you expect a side to side movement on a backpedaling guy not even exchanging punches and clinching more.

Some *****s is so hopeful wishing Mosley to upset Manny so their hero Floyd will be protected. Even some saying Floyd fight the younger version of Shane. Many people said Ortiz is still young and Martinez is old so not to blame if he wants some money. When Mosley fight Mayweather they are bought old Mosley is older than Martinez that time.

Complain if Manny fighting boxers moving forward to him then complain it again if Manny's opponent running away from him.

[ADP02]

Expectations are a *****, especially when you fail to live up to them.
Spin all you want a .........


Question: After Pacquiao's performance against Mosley, Do you think Last Night performance did more Harm than Good?

Was this Manny's best performance? No

BUT

You are putting your own spin to the point that one can OBJECTIVELY call it an exaggeration of the truth!

1) Manny won every minute of every round. So to state what you stated is questionable.


2) Manny knocked Mosley down. Mosley called that one of the hardest punches he has been hit in a very long time. I think that would be called a compliment to someone that has a well known iron chin!


3) Mosley was running after being hit. He was running so much that it did make it difficult for Manny or anyone to get to KO Mosley. By the way, it was Mosley's running and providing no offensive attack that got the crowd booing. Even the commentators were saying Mosley needs to take risks.


4) Mosley and Manny were way too chummy chummy. They hugged and gave each other high fives way too much. I think that plus Manny winning every round took something off of Manny's game. Just look how he stepped it up after the bad call by the ref. With a Floyd in front of Manny it would be game on from the opening bell.


5) yes, Manny was careful to be sure that he doesn't get countered. I'm quite sure that the plan was to be very careful with Mosley as he still can punch (see Floyd vs Mosley 2nd round). Manny said so after the fight that Mosley was waiting to counter. Manny was smart to see this and did more than enough to win EVERY SINGLE ROUND!!!


6) For the Floyd fight, Mosley was there to be hit much more often BUT there were several rounds that even Floyd was not doing much hitting. Still the key was that Mosley came forward much more with Floyd while with Manny, Mosley ran! Quite different circumstance therefore you can't compare it the way YOU did!


7)
Defense:
- Floyd got hurt badly in that 2nd round against Mosley. In the other rounds, Mosley still tried (came forward) but looked too gassed to do anything.
- Defensively Manny shut down Mosley cold!!! It was a complete shutout. So he did way better than the master defensive technician Floyd!

Offensively:
- Floyd never knocked Mosley down ... Mosley was for the most part always in front of Floyd. Meaning that Mosley NEVER RAN during the fight. Floyd still just did enough to win the rounds.
- Manny knocked Mosley down and more importantly, it halted any kind of offense from Mosley. Manny hurt Mosley enough that it got Mosley running all night long. When has anyone every seen Mosley do that? Talk about getting respect!!!


8) If you hate when someone fights cautiously, the way Manny did last night then there is a problem. Why? Like I said, Manny dominated every minute of every round, and when Mosley ran, Manny appeared content with just winning the rounds. Now, Floyd usually fights that way and just does enough to win the rounds. For example, look at his last 2 fights. Marquez went up 2 divisions and all Floyd did was something similar to last night. Floyd did also something similar against Mosley. Did you see a KO in those 2 fights? Well, like I said before the best chance at a KO was Mosley doing it on Floyd!!!

Floyd ALWAYS FIGHTS CAUTIOUSLY ..... defense and just enough offense .... Do you hate him too?

See, you love how Floyd does just enough so he wins and then YOU and other Floyd fans call that smart. Example, Floyd pot shot Oscar to a close victory. Floyd winning against Marquez but not closing the show (no KO) .... but to you all that was OK.


9) Manny said he was injured. He felt it during the fight. Now, he still won every round but you don't seem to buy that nor was it enough for you (winning every round). BUT I'm sure you buy when Floyd says he was injured during the Castillo fight right? Or that he needs to use Xylocaine on his average performances. right?



10) You said that Mosley hasn't won a fight in 2 years .... BUT when people told you that Floyd fought a Mosley that was ~39, hadn't fought in 16 MONTHS and took his old body thru 2 training camps in a row (meaning over-trained) YET Mosley gave Floyd the biggest problem of his career in the 2nd round, Floyd couldn't KO nor even knock Mosley down in that sorry condition that Mosley was in YET you have a problem with Manny?

Funny how you and others (eg. Ceiling) points out the 2+ years with no win by Mosley but are very forgetful of the fact that Mosley was 16 months inactive!!! Even your hero Floyd needs a tune-up imagine OLD MOSLEY?


11) You expected Manny to KO Mosley? Most people thought it would be either a UD by Manny or a KO by Mosley ....



Like I said at the beginning. It wasn't the best Manny but even the one we saw last night was able to win every minute of every round. So your point is way way off !

[HandSpeed303]

Why would you even compare these fights? Mayweather fans go to any lengths and try to find reasons to say he is greater than Pacquiao, when the fact is, we won't know until they fight. The truth of the matter is, if they never fight, Pacquiao will go down as the greater fighter, and *****s can't handle that. Pacquiao is the man in boxing now, not Floyd. I'm sorry. To reply to the thread, Pacquiao damn near had Shane out and on ***** street with that 3rd round KD. Mosley didn't even engage with Pacquiao and spent the whole fight running afraid of Pacquiao's power and aggression. He fought Mayweather nothing like that. Did Mayweather make Mosley literally afraid of him? No, he didn't. How could Pacquiao fight a guy who is constantly back peddling?

For the life of me, I can't begin to understand it either...