Canelo vs Rhodes June 18 in Mexico.....Done Deal

[MARKBNLV]

yes, so the RING is biased in favor of Alvarez(lets ignore that Rhodes was top 10 ranked before the Alvarez fight was even discussed), and ESPNs rankings are illegitimate because Rafael is fat, perfect logic.

east side boxing...yea, well ignore them too. and everyone else that has Rhodes as top ten.

Its all opinion based if you want to take some sports writers opinion go ahead i form my own.

[Steak]

Its all opinion based if you want to take some sports writers opinion go ahead i form my own.

I also based my own opinions.

Rhodes is top ten.
You dont know boxing.

but, you know what? were all boxing fans here. despite our disagreements, were all on the same team, even if pretty much everyone disagrees with your opinion.

[pistol whip]

Its all opinion based if you want to take some sports writers opinion go ahead i form my own.

You do realize that they actually have education in the field of journalism and actually covered the sport not from their couch like you but have actually gone and talked with fighters watched their fights live and talked to other boxing insiders who give them important info before they stated their opinions.


In otherwords your opinions are biased knownothing boxing fan ramblings that you came up with while watching a fight on your couch.

Dan Rafael actually spent hours, days, and weeks traveling, asking questions, and researching before putting out an article.

Forgive me for taking a guy who writes about boxing for a living more seriously than some knownothing assssshole.

[MARKBNLV]

This thread has gotten out of hand,enjoy your fight guys i will be watching just not expecting much.have a good day.

[pistol whip]

I can pretend I boxed for 12 years too!

[Motofan]

Rhoads by KO if he isnt weight drained. Canelo isnt ready.

[MARKBNLV]

You do realize that they actually have education in the field of journalism and actually covered the sport not from their couch like you but have actually gone and talked with fighters watched their fights live and talked to other boxing insiders who give them important info before they stated their opinions.


In otherwords your opinions are biased knownothing boxing fan ramblings that you came up with while watching a fight on your couch.

Dan Rafael actually spent hours, days, and weeks traveling, asking questions, and researching before putting out an article.

Forgive me for taking a guy who writes about boxing for a living more seriously than some knownothing assssshole.

Ask the Iceman John Scully about that fat fck Rafael and get back to me.

[MARKBNLV]

I can pretend I boxed for 12 years too!

Troll on kid people around here know me and whats up,i need not prove sht to a fcking troll.

[ManOfVictory]

Ask the Iceman John Scully about that fat fck Rafael and get back to me.

Wanna bet 2 mil? I have Alvares.

[Clegg]

I think Alvarez deserves to be the favourite for this one. Rhodes is more skilled but I think he can be caught and his chin hasn't always looked solid (not that I consider it glass, it's more like he actually has an inconsistent punch resistance, if that's possible). But Rhodes does have the style to give him problems and the power to catch him with the kind of shot that can win the fight.

As for those questioning Rhodes' credentials, some things to remember:

1. Jamie Moore was the top ranked contender at 154 in the WBC rankings a couple of years ago. He was rated number 2 and the number 1 position was vacant. This was when Martinez held the belt. Martinez considered having a voluntary defence against Moore, but they couldn't agree on money and so Moore's people appealed to the WBC for the mandatory position. The WBC ordered that Rhodes fight Moore in what was to be a final eliminator, which Rhodes won. The WBC didn't give him mandatory status, instead preferring to give the position to JCC Jr for no reason at all.

2. People can say that the titles mean nothing and the orgs are corrupt, and so what does it matter who wins eliminators or where people are ranked. I think it still matters because some boxers can't get fights with the top names or even other contenders, and so they have to go through the route of fighting their way up the rankings of an organisation. Carl Froch was in the exact same position a few years ago, unable to get big fights, and considered below world class by everyone. He now has had fights with Pascal (current champ), Taylor (former champ), Dirrell (Olympic medalist), Kessler (former champ), Abraham (former champ) and soon to face Glen Johnson (former champ) as well as having earned a shot at Calzaghe who didn't face him. The ONLY reason he was able to get the ball rolling in the first place is because he worked his way up the WBC rankings by facing who they told him to face. If that possibility didn't exist then everyone would still dismiss him as subpar, too slow, no defence, no skill etc. and say he doesn't deserve a shot.

The orgs are a bad thing for the sport overall, but I do think it's good if those who win eliminators and work their way up the rankings get their shot, because sometimes that's their only way of proving how good they are.

3. For people critical of Rhodes' resume, I'd say that it's better than Canelo's. Rhodes' best win is Jamie Moore, I'd say Canelo's best win is probably Baldomir, who is about the same level as Piccorillo, both being past-prime former 147 champs who didn't hold the belt for long and didn't have much power. Moore easily beat Piccirillo and also holds wins over Macklin (currently top 10 at MW) and Lujan (not a great fighter but had a couple of title shots).

I think it's ****** for the poster above to criticise Rhodes for losing a competitive decision to Otis Grant. Rhodes was the same age then as Canelo is now, and the fight was at 160. I don't see Canelo being able to beat that version of Otis Grant either, but what do I know? I actually watched him fight, you geniuses and your boxrec must know better

Rhodes has earned his shot, is a top contender and is more skillful and hits much harder than anyone Alvarez has faced. He's not a guy being made to move up one or even two divisions and while I don't see him as elite or anything like that, he'll be a big test for Alvarez.