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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #141
    Originally posted by studentofthegam
    Here you go with another excuse. Not training properly is a part of being the boxer that you are. If you blame a loss on being a lazy fighter its just plain old gettin beat. If you dont train hard then you are a **** fighter. If we went by that then Rid**** Bowe would be an ATG on what he could have done if he trained.
    Do you even read my posts? I talked about him splitting with Ingle and you go off on something about not training properly. He definitely wasnt training properly but he also got rid of the guy that trained him to his greatest successes.

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    • raskat
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      #142
      Naz had 15 title defences. he should be in the HOF

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      • UmarImranKhalil
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        #143
        Originally posted by cklmaced
        Yeah your not mad even though you wrote an essay in response LOL.
        I wrote something which addressed all your wack 'points'. Maybe I should feel anger for having dignified that shower of ****e you typed with such an articulate response, but I don't...yet.

        Again, where have I expressed any anger about Hamed losing to Barrera? That's not even the crux of the discussion here. Losing 8 rounds out of 12 and not being hurt by a Top 100 ATG is no shameful thing, and surely nothing for a Hamed fan to be 'mad' about 10 years later.


        Originally posted by cklmaced
        I didn't compare McGuigan to Barrera or Morlaes you dumbass I compared them to Naz.
        You compared Barrera and Morales' records to Naz' as though McGuigan's wouldn't also fare unfavorably in comparison to theirs.

        Comparing Naz' record to Barrera's and Morales' doesn't change the fact that Hamed's record >>> McGuigan's + his natural talent far exceeds McGuigan's + his cultural impact far exceeds McGuigan's + he would quite possibly have finished McGuigan's career in an alternate universe where they could have met in their primes.


        Originally posted by cklmaced
        You clearly are mad about Naz not being in the HOF
        You're clearly a ******. These are Hamed's first few years of eligibility; it's hardly a big deal and I wasn't even in the threads complaining when he wasn't among the 2010 entrants. It's hard to get 'mad' about something that is an almost certain eventuality, anyway. Nazzy will be in the HOF.


        Originally posted by cklmaced
        name me a GREAT fighter Naz beat.
        Originally posted by cklmaced
        Most compare fighters to those in their era McGuigan beat the best, Naz lost and folded FACT accept it.
        Ohh, slick.

        Name me a fighter Hamed lost to, much less was stopped by, who was equivalent to a Jim McDonnell.

        The best in Naseem's era was Barrera, a Top 100 ATG, and Hamed fought a prime version and lost by about 8 rounds to 4.

        Now name me a GREAT fighter that McGuigan beat when they were great.

        LMAO, McGuigan only beat 'the best' when the best was past it. Hamed lost to a prime Top 100 ATG by about 8 rounds to 4 and fought only once more before calling it a day. McGuigan got stopped by Jim McDonnell and never fought again. LMAO. FACTS, accept them.


        Originally posted by cklmaced
        Im not even complaining about Naz getting in I have stated on numerous occasions
        No, you're b*tching because more learned posters than you observed that McGuigan has a less worthy HOF claim than Hamed.


        Originally posted by cklmaced
        but I'm guessing you can't read well judging from your attempts at humour.
        I didn't make any jokes.


        Originally posted by cklmaced
        I just stated he is over rated which he is and doesn't have the heart like most other HOFs which is true.
        Almost every fighter is overrated by some people at some point in time. A guy you mention favorably earlier in the thread, Tyson, is hugely overrated in by some.

        Perhaps the only fighter who can't possibly be overrated is SRR.

        Hamed is more often underrated than he is overrated. The majority of smart observers, however, acknowledge him correctly as a deserving future Hall Of Famer who had a world of natural ability.


        And Naz had a ton of fighting heart, displayed in the ring. He never did anything between the ropes that should call his fighting heart into question.



        You're just crying because Naz is Greater than McGuigan. That's the bottom line.

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        • studentofthegam
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          #144
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Do you even read my posts? I talked about him splitting with Ingle and you go off on something about not training properly. He definitely wasnt training properly but he also got rid of the guy that trained him to his greatest successes.
          He chose to split with Ingle. Right? But OK we're goin nowhere.

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          • UmarImranKhalil
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            #145
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Do you even read my posts? I talked about him splitting with Ingle and you go off on something about not training properly. He definitely wasnt training properly but he also got rid of the guy that trained him to his greatest successes.
            That guy is truly obtuse.


            He just rambles from one tangent to another with no actual point.



            **** him. He don't wannit.

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #146
              Originally posted by studentofthegam
              He chose to split with Ingle. Right? But OK we're goin nowhere.
              Yeah. He made a lot of bad decisions

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              • Squizz
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                #147
                LOL@ at anyone thinking Hamed had a better career than Mike Tyson. It's not even close. And if you believe that, either you're a ****ing idiot, or Birtish. (Or both. )

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                  #148
                  no he shouldn't be exepted into the HOF, look at his resume for Christ sake and compare that to Morales or Barrera

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                  • studentofthegam
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by UmarImranKhalil
                    That guy is truly obtuse.


                    He just rambles from one tangent to another with no actual point.



                    **** him. He don't wannit.
                    Cheerleader! I gotta get me some.

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                    • UmarImranKhalil
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by studentofthegam
                      Cheerleader! I gotta get me some.
                      Huh?


                      'cklmaced' is the obtuse guy. I thought he was the one being replied to at first glance.

                      And I was leading the debate against that guy, last I checked.


                      Scanning the post again, it seems Dirk was responding to you.

                      Simple error. Calm down.

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