So Who's the best at 140??

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #51
    Originally posted by RubenSonny
    Elaborate, it is clear that Khan is extremely flawed.
    Khan has flaws but he also has special talent. I dont see anything particularly special in Bradley except his head

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    • DET. IRONSIDE
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      #52
      Also Timmy reminds me of the Turtles:

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      • Mr. Invincible
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        #53
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        You simply said weakness in your post.

        I dont recall Khan showing mental weakness. You have to be mentally strong to survive the onslaught Maidana put on him.
        Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
        Bradley does everything well and his will to win is far superior to Khan.
        There's my quote refering to mental strength. No, I didn't say those exact words but that's what will to win means.

        I agree Khan showed toughness he had not shown before but he didn't impress me the way he ran, etc. I can't imagine Bradley doing that is all I'm saying. See the Kendal Hold fight for a reference.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #54
          Originally posted by wazaa.
          Because Amir doesn't have the chin of Bradley. So he should have traded with Maidana?

          It's ok though. I can live with people calling Bradley more determined. Because he is one tough nut to crack. But his warrior-mentality is not FAR superior then Khan's.

          I'm just pointing out the difference in heart between the 2,Bradley gets dropped,comes back harder,Khan gets dropped,he retreats.That's where heart comes in.Khan is easily more talented,but to get where Bradley has being short,relatively little power & always over achieving,takes more heart than being 1 of the biggest at 140 & strongest.I'm not taking anything away from Khan,but he is physically superior to Bradley,but he's been slept & Bradley still has beaten beater fighters.

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          • FrankJack
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            #55
            Speed and power belongs to Amir but he's not as skilled in other areas as Timothy is.

            Let's take both of their defensive abilities into consideration, for instance. From what I've seen from Amir, his defense for the most part has been his movement (and he has good legs for the first half of fights) but when the distance is closed on him, he will go into a guard that isn't all that tight to begin with. We've seen a variety of punches get through that guard by Maidana and Kotelnik.

            On the other hand with Timothy, he has shown that he can slip, dodge, and pick off incoming punches as well as use movement when he needs to as he did against Peterson.

            Tim can get wide and wild when he throws his punches and that will be his undoing should he go against a confident good counter puncher. And Amir has shown that he can over commit and lunge into his punches at times which makes him susceptible to counter punchers also. Malignaggi was able to land some decent counters against him, but his severe lack of power provided no deterrent.

            The two will definitely have to meet up to decide and it's hard for me to choose the better between the two as they've both faced solid competition through their careers and neither resume is anything I would laugh at. I'm excited about seeing the outcome, though. That's all I can say.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
              I'm just pointing out the difference in heart between the 2,Bradley gets dropped,comes back harder,Khan gets dropped,he retreats.That's where heart comes in.Khan is easily more talented,but to get where Bradley has being short,relatively little power & always over achieving,takes more heart than being 1 of the biggest at 140 & strongest.I'm not taking anything away from Khan,but he is physically superior to Bradley,but he's been slept & Bradley still has beaten beater fighters.
              Green K: Its gonna be a hell of a rumble.

              We know both these guys like to fight, unlike "the sensitive one".

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #57
                Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                I'm just pointing out the difference in heart between the 2,Bradley gets dropped,comes back harder,Khan gets dropped,he retreats.That's where heart comes in.Khan is easily more talented,but to get where Bradley has being short,relatively little power & always over achieving,takes more heart than being 1 of the biggest at 140 & strongest.I'm not taking anything away from Khan,but he is physically superior to Bradley,but he's been slept & Bradley still has beaten beater fighters.
                He didnt get dropped against Maidana....because he moved and held when he had to. Its called being smart. He then came back and won the 11th.

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                • Left Hook Tua
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                  Kahn? He's had what like 4-5 fights at the weight? I don't think so.
                  he's had 4.

                  3 were in the top 10 140 fighters

                  2 are in the top 5 right now.


                  khan's resume might be behind bradley's but a lot of people believe that khan could be the best at 140 with his speed , power and size along with his skills.

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                  • RubenSonny
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Khan has flaws but he also has special talent. I dont see anything particularly special in Bradley except his head
                    But you said Bradley was extremely flawed, elaborate....

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                      #60
                      Anyone else find it funny that Roach was trained by Futch, but his (Roach's) fighters don't have an inside game?

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