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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Champ: Critiquing a half-century of “Greatest” wannabes

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - As Mondays go, this week’s was a pretty big one.

    Not only was it the 25th incarnation of a holiday honoring a leader taken far too soon from his calling, but it also marked another anniversary of the birth of a man to whom fans my age and older give credit for planting the seeds for a lifelong love of the sport.

    Muhammad Ali turned 69 years old yesterday, and, from all accounts, celebrated the milestone in the same spotlight-free way in which the most-recent third of his life has been lived.

    As all who know the story are aware, the man once known as the “Louisville Lip” has been silenced by unforgiving health concerns over the years, robbing from today’s youngest generations a first-hand glimpse of the brash emperor who ruled the ring for nearly two full decades.

    It’s an irony history’s best storytellers would be hard-pressed to concoct.

    Love him or loathe him, Ali changed the game forever and provided a blueprint from which all subsequent athletes – particularly those with a gift for gab – could borrow while constructing their own larger-than-life personalities in an increasingly media-sopped environment.

    It’d be hard to imagine modern-day motor-mouths like Floyd Mayweather Jr., Terrell Owens, Charles Barkley or Rex Ryan had it not been for Ali’s emergence and the paradigm shift he authored while dethroning Sonny Liston to become the most recognized man on the planet. [Click Here To Read More]
  • FightDoctor.
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    "for real" "come on man" !!!

    This is one of the most ****** list i have ever seen! Why because it's missing roy jones jr and floyd mayweather jr , bernard" the executioner "hopkins , edwin valero etc.! These are game changers!!! They got the klitschko brothers, they haven't even fought a good heavy wieght, and when they did, they got beat. If we can't respect the now then how can we repsect the past and the future!!!

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    • kingstip
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      #3
      this is a terrible list
      foreman > wladamir
      joe frazier overrated? wow thats a first.. i think id call him underrated but oh well
      and honestly.. if im going too rate the klitschkos.. vitali is the better one
      no doubt in my mind!

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      • pelonxsoldier28
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        #4
        Wow, that list is a crock of ****!!!!!!!

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        • theplayerpimp
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          #5
          Originally posted by kingstip
          this is a terrible list
          foreman > wladamir
          joe frazier overrated? wow thats a first.. i think id call him underrated but oh well
          and honestly.. if im going too rate the klitschkos.. vitali is the better one
          no doubt in my mind!
          Yup thats whay i though when i read that part. And if he is overated what do you call the klits who have no real notable victory on their resume?

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          • antrob
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            #6
            Lennox Lewis has to be above Rid**** Bowe. Even Bowe all but admitted Lewis was better by refusing to fight him.

            And Hasim Rahman and Buster Douglas has to be the at the bottom two, it doesn't matter what order.

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            • antrob
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              #7
              Originally posted by kingstip
              this is a terrible list
              foreman > wladamir
              joe frazier overrated? wow thats a first.. i think id call him underrated but oh well
              and honestly.. if im going too rate the klitschkos.. vitali is the better one
              no doubt in my mind!
              Here's why I think Lyle has Wladimir over Foreman. George Foreman was never a dominating Champion. In his first title reign he only defended his title two times before losing to Ali and his during his second title reign, at the age of 45 he defended his title only 4 times.

              Wladimir on the other hand is also a two time Heavyweight Champion and has been a dominating champion for 5 years now, defending his title 9 times while cleaning out the division.

              I'm not saying I agree with Lyle but I can see where he's coming from.

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              • Chaos
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                If we're going by how dominant a heavyweight was during their prime and ignoring everything that came after (which must be how the list was made if Bowe is 3rd), then Tyson should be 2nd or 3rd because no heavyweight ran through the division the way Tyson did. If we're going by potential based on the fighter's skill then Tyson should be 2nd for sure because no one had his combination of technique/power/speed/movement.

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                • prinzemanspopa
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                  9. Joe Frazier (1971) – A solid pro, to be sure, but quite possibly the most overrated heavyweight in history. Was a notable foil to Ali, but wound up 1-4 with three KO losses against his two best foes (Ali and Foreman), with a whole lot of cannon fodder elsewhere.


                  The absolute truth!


                  This guy's my new favourite boxing writer

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                  • Chaos
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                    I wouldn't call Frazier overrated, he just fought during the toughest era in heavyweight history and unfortunately for him came up short against two of the best heavyweights ever. Let's be realistic, there aren't too many heavies who would have done much better than he did against Ali and prime Foreman.
                    Last edited by Chaos; 01-18-2011, 06:11 AM.

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