Comments Thread For: Khan Defends Himself and Pacquiao Over Drug Allegations

[BoZz]

how can he speak for himself and pacquiao? How would he know what pacqiuao or any fighter is up to?

[mikemurni]

My post was not speculation. It is a fact that the tests given by the boxing commissions is flawed in testing for present day drugs. That is not arguable. I do not have provide quotes that Manny is clean or dirty. Your point was that Manny Pacquaio is clean because he has passed every test. I showed you the flaw in your argument. Again, simple and to the point. Your so-called fact is a opinion, becasue the boxing commissions tests are flawed. Therefore, we do not know if Manny is clean or not. Your statement is flawed.

He is clean because he pass the test, and has no direct proof like Mosley saying that he is not.. Irregardless whether the testing is flawed or not,all you have are speculations which is based on nothing...

You can argue about the testing being flawed but it has nothing to do with Pac being guilty of anything...

[SceneSpectator!]

Its near impossible too confirm who is on steroids or not from standard urine testing due too the many loopholes.


http://www.steroidreport.com/2008/03...lse-positives/



From this study if you have the right genetics, to be specific, lacking the enzyme UGT2B17 one can get away with using up too 500mg of exogenous testosterone enanthate tested by anti doping organisations such as WADA & NSCA's T-E/testosterone:epitestosterone ratio urine spot test.


If one can get away with using up too 500mg of an external source of testosterone then this would bring total testosterone levels too around 2500-3500ng/dl (400-500% higher than natural testosterone levels)a few days after taking the injection depending on half life of the testosterone ester.

So if one has the right genetics or manipulates ones own biochemistry they can get away free while injecting this amount of testosterone and test falsely negative.This also works the other way, if one has the wrong or bad genetics then he/she can test a false positive too.

This testosterone loophole in drug testing has been known by athletes for decades (anecdotally).

Could this be a magic substance that its signature would disappear instantly from the system right after the fight when both fighters will again be tested??? man stop it.. you know this is a big BS!

[MayMosPeaHop]

He is clean because he pass the test, and has no direct proof like Mosley saying that he is not.. Irregardless whether the testing is flawed or not,all you have are speculations which is based on nothing...

You can argue about the testing being flawed but it has nothing to do with Pac being guilty of anything...

Listen please, I am not arguing or speculating about Manny Pacquaio's guilt or innocence in regards to using PED's. Your belief which you stated as a fact on why Manny is clean or clean up to this point as you said is not a fact. That is what I have challenged in this thread. The sad part is your statement has been proven wrong but you keep repeating it. The boxing commissions tests are flawed, therefore your statement cannot be proven as fact.

[SceneSpectator!]

My post was not speculation. It is a fact that the tests given by the boxing commissions is flawed in testing for present day drugs. That is not arguable. I do not have provide quotes that Manny is clean or dirty. Your point was that Manny Pacquaio is clean because he has passed every test. I showed you the flaw in your argument. Again, simple and to the point. Your so-called fact is a opinion, becasue the boxing commissions tests are flawed. Therefore, we do not know if Manny is clean or not. Your statement is flawed.

does it mean that most fighters if not all who did not undergo USADA tests but just passing NSAC tests are most likely suspects? and because Pac is the most successful one in his career is being single-handed??? Then ****k all these hypocrites labeling pac on illegal substance!!!

[ALG United]

My post was not speculation. It is a fact that the tests given by the boxing commissions is flawed in testing for present day drugs. That is not arguable. I do not have provide quotes that Manny is clean or dirty. Your point was that Manny Pacquaio is clean because he has passed every test. I showed you the flaw in your argument. Again, simple and to the point. Your so-called fact is a opinion, becasue the boxing commissions tests are flawed. Therefore, we do not know if Manny is clean or not. Your statement is flawed.

How can you say that for a fact that the commission is flawed?!! Are you from the commission??!! A first-world commission using a first-world lab in a first-world country like the U.S.of A. is being questioned here, WTF is that??!!! The USADA is also an american company, how can they assure as that their method is not FLAWED!!! You are no different from Roger Mayweather accusing Manny of taking an Ancient Filipino drug that will enable the user to withstand 45 caliber bullets, WTF is that??!! And to say that this 500 year old drug is undetectable with present day, state of the art methods of drug testing is completely ABSURD and ******!!!

[Alibata]

Even if we didn't, we definitely don't believe the word of the other side.

"we"....."The other side????""" Spoken like a loyalist aren't we.....

[jltsmae]

We do not have to go round and round like the others, but your logic is flawed because the Boxing commission(e.g. New Jersey, California, Texas, Nevada) tests are flawed. And that is a fact and has been proven. Therefore, we cannot prove that Manny Paquiao is clean by passing a test held by any of the boxing commissions in America. So, stating that Manny is clean because he has never failed a drug test is not a fact, but your opinion.

Do you mean to say That ALL the boxers on a NON OST test MUST BE ON Peds just like Pac?

[Alibata]

Me??? I'm used to seeing Mexicans with no amateur background learn everything along the way as they fight pro. And we're not talking maturing, we're talking MASSIVE 9 DIVISION PHYSICAL MATURING **AFTER 21 YEARS OF AGE** and going from being the 2nd best flyweight(at 21) in the Phillipines(at best) and losing to a Thai who was originally 2 divisions smaller and who walked through his punches..... to being an ATG WORLDWIDE who destroyed great fighters while moving up 9 divisions.

How the hell can anybody take *****s seriously when you got guys like this mixing in with your arguments? This guys is the least of it too.

[MayMosPeaHop]

How can you say that for a fact that the commission is flawed?!! Are you from the commission??!! A first-world commission using a first-world lab in a first-world country like the U.S.of A. is being questioned here, WTF is that??!!! The USADA is also an american company, how can they assure as that their method is not FLAWED!!! You are no different from Roger Mayweather accusing Manny of taking an Ancient Filipino drug that will enable the user to withstand 45 caliber bullets, WTF is that??!! And to say that this 500 year old drug is undetectable with present day, state of the art methods of drug testing is completely ABSURD and ******!!!

What the hell are you talking about?