Comments Thread For: Khan Defends Himself and Pacquiao Over Drug Allegations

[LeadUppercut]

Manny did the same before and in a shorter time. He went from 113 to fighting 120's the next fight and KOing the guy in 2 rounds and then went on almost 13 KOs in a row in a couple of divisions. Very su****ious, right?

As for the higher weights, Manny improved. Most of us would agree but I doubt that you would agree. Still at the higher weights he never KOed anyone at 147 nor 150. Manny uses speed and movement to generate power. He does NOT come in at 147 nor 150 because he worries that he will lose his speed by doing so.

When you have the speed and movement that Manny has, it generates power but not enough to KO the big guys. These guys have trouble stopping his punches because they can't even see some of them and therefore dazing them and effectively destroying them.

David Diaz was honest and said it best post fight AFTER BEING KOed:
"He is just too fast it wasn't the power ..... I thought Freddie was in there too!" .........."I thought he had a knife with him and cutting me up with a blade .... I could handle his power but his speed was uncontrollable."


Manny's speed, movement and improvements that he gained along the way made him do what he did to those bigger guys.

BUT IT'S FUNNY .... in this thread Manny is amazing and it must be the PEDS and in another thread you guys say his opponents were drained, shot ..... Please make up your minds!

I agree with two points you made, and disagree with one other.....

1.) Yep I agree, Manny had his run - you know 108 to 130 - the same sort of span that many other fighters have had..... but a second run?

A second run, gaining another 15+ lbs of muscle in less than 18 months and ripping through three divisions whilst improving his speed and power? Whilst - coincidentally - refusing random blood tests?

And this is after commentators stated during Marquez II that Pacquiao "is fading..... he looks like he's been in too many wars"

Please..... did that point really help your case?

2.) Yep I agree, speed kills..... but timing/skills beat speed, and funnily enough, Manny has not fought a slick technician since Marquez whooped him.

Your point about speed..... it is bizarre that Manny has been able to retain his speed while making those massive weight gains. That is actually the problem that most people have with the "new and "improved" Pacquiao.

" in this thread Manny is amazing and it must be the PEDS and in another thread you guys say his opponents were drained, shot "

Nope. I have stated previously that Manny's resume' is not only manufactured, it is likely fraudulent as well.

[TheMexHurricane]

You have to realize Manny's background. He wasn't fortunate to have the type of amateur background as let's say Floyd had. Therefore, you will not see the same type of maturing as others that you are used to seeing.

Manny learned everything along the way as he fought as a Pro .....

Me??? I'm used to seeing Mexicans with no amateur background learn everything along the way as they fight pro. And we're not talking maturing, we're talking MASSIVE 9 DIVISION PHYSICAL MATURING **AFTER 21 YEARS OF AGE** and going from being the 2nd best flyweight(at 21) in the Phillipines(at best) and losing to a Thai who was originally 2 divisions smaller and who walked through his punches..... to being an ATG WORLDWIDE who destroyed great fighters while moving up 9 divisions.

[LeadUppercut]

Me??? I'm used to seeing Mexicans with no amateur background learn everything along the way as they fight pro. And we're not talking maturing, we're talking MASSIVE 9 DIVISION PHYSICAL MATURING **AFTER 21 YEARS OF AGE** and going from being the 2nd best flyweight(at 21) in the Phillipines(at best) and losing to a Thai who was originally 2 divisions smaller and who walked through his punches..... to being an ATG WORLDWIDE who destroyed great fighters while moving up 9 divisions.

21 ?

Manny was 30yo when he fought Marquez at SFW.

Than came Ariza.

6 months later, before Manny's 31st birthday, he had put on nearly 15lbs of muscle to fight Hoya

[LeadUppercut]

ADP02, the real point is this.....

Whilst you may think that it is honorable to whole-heartedly defend Manny, it is absolutely ridiculous that you should be required to do so.

Manny, take the fkn tests man. WTF?

[LMFAO]

Hardly, most are pointing to the popular theme of, "I never failed a test"

The problem with that is, "the system" has failed and saying you never failed a test does not justify one as being "clean".

Besides Pac said he would agree to 100% Random unlimited OST with no cut off's, there is no problem. He already said he wants the fight and will do what ever testing that is needed in order to get the fight.

Yet he's fighting "Splenda" Shane Mosley and Floyd's in court which ironically is where Pac wanted to "fight" him in the first place. Arum's already talking about something along the lines of Pac vs Cotto II at 154 next.

Khan's just paranoid. I wonder why?

Manny needs to be "100%" and Manny's "100%" confident in a current testing sytem that isn't "100%" and was "100%" positive he wanted to fight Shane who's admitted to beating the current system. 100% God, No Steroids. Manny's a funny guy.

Once Arum's milked Manny for all he can and discards him, he'll get Khan on Ariza's special blend and the whole Flop Stank "cycle" will repeat itself.

[Dale Cardon]

Pacquiao doesnt know what am giving him - Ariza

Are you implying Ariza is giving him something illegal? Proof?

[IMDAZED]

Are you implying Ariza is giving him something illegal? Proof?

Sure. Take these tests right here.

[wazaa.]

Sure. Take these tests right here.

Amir already said he would take any tests.

[jltsmae]

Manny needs to be "100%" and Manny's "100%" confident in a current testing sytem that isn't "100%" and was "100%" positive he wanted to fight Shane who's admitted to beating the current system. 100% God, No Steroids. Manny's a funny guy.

Once Arum's milked Manny for all he can and discards him, he'll get Khan on Ariza's special blend and the whole Flop Stank "cycle" will repeat itself.

So, which test then other than the current is 100% CAN'T BE BEATEN? ANY other 100% non bs test other than the current 1?

[IMDAZED]

Amir already said he would take any tests.

Was referring to the other guy, the one Amir "thinks" isn't juicing.