would vitali of given mike a hell of a fight

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  • PainKiller
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    #21
    I give Vitali a good fight vs anyone, anyone ever, but leaving your chin out, slowl footwork, against tyson is a very bad idea. Holyfield rolled with ****s, grabbed and had good reflexes and defence, vitali is the total opposite and could get hurt real bad.

    If mike couldn't take him out after 6, vitali wins. Vitali hasn't faced a guy with tysons power, speed and explosiveness, and he could lose by tko and cuts etc.

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      Vitali by KO.

      Yea Tyson fought bigger guys, but none had the skills or composure of Vitali. None had his jab, and none had his power. None had the heavyweight championship reign of him either.

      People picking Mike, are doing so with their hearts. The majority of Tysons foes in his prime, went into the ring scared ****less already. Vitali isn't that kind of dude. He looks at fear right in the eye and stares it down. Dudes that didn't back down from Mike,

      were his downfall.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
        Vitali by KO.

        Yea Tyson fought bigger guys, but none had the skills or composure of Vitali. None had his jab, and none had his power. None had the heavyweight championship reign of him either.

        People picking Mike, are doing so with their hearts. The majority of Tysons foes in his prime, went into the ring scared ****less already. Vitali isn't that kind of dude. He looks at fear right in the eye and stares it down. Dudes that didn't back down from Mike,

        were his downfall.
        Tyson fought lewis who imo is better than vitali

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          #24
          Prime Tyson got KTFO by a BUM.

          Vitali destroys Tyson.
          Last edited by yessuh; 10-27-2010, 03:50 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by PainKiller
            Tyson fought lewis who imo is better than vitali
            and got KTFO.

            Vitali fought Lewis, and sent him to retirement.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
              Vitali by KO.

              Yea Tyson fought bigger guys, but none had the skills or composure of Vitali. None had his jab, and none had his power. None had the heavyweight championship reign of him either.

              People picking Mike, are doing so with their hearts. The majority of Tysons foes in his prime, went into the ring scared ****less already. Vitali isn't that kind of dude. He looks at fear right in the eye and stares it down. Dudes that didn't back down from Mike,

              were his downfall.
              None had his jab? Tyson destroyed Larry Holmes who had arguably the best jab in the history of the heavyweight division... granted Larry was old at the time but so is Vitali.

              Mid to late 80's Tyson was the greatest offensive threat boxing has ever known. Not many fighters at any point in history could have withstood what Mike threw out in the first few rounds.

              Biggest problem with Mike Tyson was that his prime was a very short period of time and he never had a plan B. Once his high-octane offense died down a bit after those first few years then a few fighters were able to weather the storm for a few rounds... once they got there, Mike was stumped.

              To me that's what prevents him from being one of the all-time greatest... prime years were too few and he could never adapt when his offense failed.

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                #27
                Its not about picking Tyson with hearts its about who have these two brothers fought. Majority of potential great USA heavyweights are either in football or basketball and rightfully so because there is more longevity and more money. Wladimer last fight fought Briggs who looked slower than 1997 Sugar Ray Leonard with absolutely no snap on his punches.

                Both brothers look great against a division and competetion thats at the worse its ever been. Youngsters in the USA are no longer going to boxing gyms and instead playing pop warner football or heading to the court to play basketball. They have no heroes to motivate them to box because the heavyweight division is horrible. They look up to Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade.

                You dont know what would happen if either brother fought Mike Tyson at his peak who would be the most quality USA heavyweight they have ever fought. Your judging off both brothers beating bums.

                And Tyson after Prison DONT COUNT....No boxer can lay off 4 years and be the same. Ray Leonard had success because he stayed away from younger fighters.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by nohero
                  None had his jab? Tyson destroyed Larry Holmes who had arguably the best jab in the history of the heavyweight division... granted Larry was old at the time but so is Vitali.

                  Mid to late 80's Tyson was the greatest offensive threat boxing has ever known. Not many fighters at any point in history could have withstood what Mike threw out in the first few rounds.

                  Biggest problem with Mike Tyson was that his prime was a very short period of time and he never had a plan B. Once his high-octane offense died down a bit after those first few years then a few fighters were able to weather the storm for a few rounds... once they got there, Mike was stumped.

                  To me that's what prevents him from being one of the all-time greatest... prime years were too few and he could never adapt when his offense failed.

                  Larry Holmes?

                  The flabby and sick Larry Holmes?



                  The guy was practically 40 years old and coming off of two straight losses to a career light heavyweight.

                  and why are you pitting a prime Tyson against an old Vitali?

                  Prime vs prime.

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                    #29
                    Younger Tyson didn't have a problem with conditioning so saying either brother would simple withstand Tysons 1st 3 round barrage is lack of knowledge. You mean the 2002 version of Tyson at 40 years old.

                    80's Tyson could actually fight at a fast pace with ENERGY over the long haul. And thats because Kevin Rooney had him sparring 15 rounds during training. Older Tyson was not training like that and that led to him tiring after 4 to 5 rounds.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                      Its not about picking Tyson with hearts its about who have these two brothers fought. Majority of potential great USA heavyweights are either in football or basketball and rightfully so because there is more longevity and more money. Wladimer last fight fought Briggs who looked slower than 1997 Sugar Ray Leonard with absolutely no snap on his punches.

                      Both brothers look great against a division and competetion thats at the worse its ever been. Youngsters in the USA are no longer going to boxing gyms and instead playing pop warner football or heading to the court to play basketball. They have no heroes to motivate them to box because the heavyweight division is horrible. They look up to Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade.

                      You dont know what would happen if either brother fought Mike Tyson at his peak who would be the most quality USA heavyweight they have ever fought. Your judging off both brothers beating bums.

                      And Tyson after Prison DONT COUNT....No boxer can lay off 4 years and be the same. Ray Leonard had success because he stayed away from younger fighters.
                      Even before prison,

                      who were these great heavyweights Mike fought?

                      Was it Marvis Frazier?
                      Pinklon Thomas?
                      Bonecrusher Smith?
                      Tony Tubbs?
                      Mitch Green?

                      Looking at it, his comp was just as deadly as what the K Bros have faced.

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