JMM ,Hops, Cotto, Donaire and C.C.: Should NOT be on the P4P Lists.

[Iceta Lives]

And Williams isn't too high either. If he is, then Cotto shouldn't have stayed in the top five after his win over Mosley. And speaking of Mosley, he should be underneath Williams because Williams has fought twice since Mosley has. I'd still have Shane in the top five though because he wanted Pac and Floyd last year and they wouldn't fight him then. Can't penalize him too much for that.

[Shadows]

Despite three technical decisions and evidence that shows he might be slipping, I think Calderon deserves a shout.

I'm not too sure I agree with Dirrell or Ward. Even Wonjongkam.

However, it's your list, so.....

[Iceta Lives]

Here is what a biased list looks like:

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Paul Williams
3. Andre Ward
4. Chad Dawson
5. Timothy Bradley
6. Devon Alexander
7. Anthony Peterson
8. Tavoris Cloud
9. James Kirkland
10. Shane Mosley

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[Pacdbest]

1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

3. Shane Mosley

4. Paul Williams

5. Chad Dawson

6. Andre Dirrell

7. Andre Ward

8. Timothy Bradley

9. Hozumi Hasegawa

10. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam


It should include these 10 fighters in whatever order you see fit.

The TRuth is Bhop will Beat Dawson and Dirrell.

Donaire KO Pongsaklek and Hasegawa.

Cotto KO Bradley

JMM beats Bradley too.

Caballero KO Hasegawa.

[blank_frackis]

And yes, JMM needs to be dropped from the list. You don't fight a rematch with a guy you already KOd and move down in weight to do it. To me, I'd keep JMM on there even if he lost to Floyd if he hadn't have done that. He's lost a lot of respect from me.

You're criticising him for what is essentially standard practice in these situations. He lost to Mayweather, he needs to get back on his feet, so he's fighting someone a little below him. Same way a thousand other fighters have got back on their feet after a big loss.

Obviously he has to fight someone that will generate a slight bit of interest and Diaz fits that bill because the last fight was so entertaining.

[Caxcan]

If you dont think he is dont rank him there in your eyes.

I'm going by your criteria. If JMM doesnt deserve to be on the list because he's rematching Diaz then you should also remove Mayweather for fighting a guy that doesnt even belong in the ww division.

[$Bullsfam$]

This is so fn confusing and ridiculous. Why the hell are we making a P4P list without Hopkins, Donaire, JMM, and Cotto? Who the hell is better then them?

I am like the majority and want Hopkins to fight Dawson or retire, but that does not mean Dawson gets in and Hopkins gets out. Hopkins clowned Tarver and finished a PRIMED Glenn Johnson, Dawson's resume is getting 4 decisions over these too at this stage of their careers. Miguel Cotto just lost to the #1 P4P fighter in the world and now somehow he's out? What kind of BS logic is that not to mention he's challenging himself in another division. Your so high on Floyd why the hell are you lowering JMM for losing to him? Especially when Floyd's way bigger too. And their called comeback/tune up fights. ALL THE GREAT BOXERS HAVE THEM FROM TIME TO TIME. What the hell was just Clottey-Pacman? JMM was a gimme for Floyd too pretty much. Diaz isn't a bad tune up either, he's game. It'd be different if your just trying to see if somebody could make one without them but I didn't see if you said that, it sounds like your trying to say these guys don't deserve to be in their which is fn ridiculous. All of them have a 10x better resume then any of the guys your trying to bring in.

My top 10 P4P...

1) Manny
2) Floyd
3)Mosley
4)Hopkins
5)Marquez
6)P. Williams
7)Donaire
8)Wlad(Pure Heavyweight dominance for a few years now...)
10)Cotto

My top 10 without the guys listed if somehow they just disappeared...

1)Manny
2)Floyd
3)Mosley
4)P. Williams
5)Wlad
6)Pavlik(Until somebody other then Hopkins beats him, we'll see about Sergio)
7)Dawson
8)Bradley
9)Ward
10)Froch/Kessler winner

I just don't see the point of throwing the guys from 6-10 in replace for the guys you wanna throw out when the guys your throwing out still haven't proven to be done yet, maybe coming off losses to GREAT competition like Cotto and Marquez, but to throw guys like Bradley, Dawson, Ward, and Froch into the fire with only 1 or 2 elite wins is just kind of ridiculous too me. They all have the potential and most likely will be in there soon enough, but just not right now. At least let us see the clear #1 super middleweight come out of the tournament first, and let the 140lbs division play itself out, and let Dawson fight Pascal and Cloud just so we can atleast throw them in after they are the obvious #1 in the division even though Dawson already is that but still has those 2 challengers left.

Dont know **** about jap boxing though to be honest hahaa

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

3. Shane Mosley

4. Paul Williams

5. Chad Dawson

6. Andre Dirrell

7. Andre Ward

8. Timothy Bradley

9. Hozumi Hasegawa

10. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam


It should include these 10 fighters in whatever order you see fit.

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[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I'm going by your criteria. If JMM doesnt deserve to be on the list because he's rematching Diaz then you should also remove Mayweather for fighting a guy that doesnt even belong in the ww division.

[KickAzz]

No Ceilings' list

1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

3. Shane Mosley

4. Paul Williams (too high)

5. Chad Dawson (doesn't deserve to be top 10 yet)

6. Andre Dirrell (doesn't deserve to be top 10 yet)

7. Andre Ward (doesn't deserve to be top 10 yet)

8. Timothy Bradley

9. Hozumi Hasegawa (doesn't deserve to be top 10 yet)

10. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (should be higher)