Fighters don't lose punching power by going up in weight.

[big_james10]

Hatton was not unconscious. I guess you're too ****** to realize that or still hurting because Hatton lost the fight. The ring post excuse is pathetic. The funny thing is I've never even heard Hatton use that as an excuse.

Good point. the ring post is padded. If anyone has ever watched professional wrestling, you will see guys get their heads ****e on a ring post and not respond at all. It is padded and does not hurt if you hit it. Actually Hatton was lucky. If the ring post had not been there, he would have landed in the first row.

[Calilloyd]

men get stronger till the age of 35.

its the cardio, flexibility and speed that begins to deteriorate from age 21.

Anybody who starts deteriorating at only 21 has some health issues. I find that hard to believe. The flexibility I can see but not speed or cardio. Not at only 21..

[big_james10]

This post is nothing more than another lame ass excuse to justify/explain/deny that Pacquiao has been using illegal substances. The same guy who was getting knocked out by journeymen at 112 is walking through punches and KOing guys at 147. Yet it is due to the fact that he is geting stronger as he moves up. Only an idiot/Pac worshipper would believe this bull****!

[Left Banned Tua]

This post is nothing more than another lame ass excuse to justify/explain/deny that Pacquiao has been using illegal substances. The same guy who was getting knocked out by journeymen at 112 is walking through punches and KOing guys at 147. Yet it is due to the fact that he is geting stronger as he moves up. Only an idiot/Pac worshipper would believe this bull****!

no it's not , idiot.

take that pac talk out of here.

this came about because of the floyd-jmm at 130 thread.

burner and a few nitwits said floyd is weaker puncher at 147 than 130.

[-Swizzy-]

Anybody who starts deteriorating at only 21 has some health issues. I find that hard to believe. The flexibility I can see but not speed or cardio. Not at only 21..

well, it is fact. and the deterioration is VERY small at the beginning... like from 21 to 24, the deterioration would be so small that it wouldn't be noticeable at all unless scientifically measured. but as you age, you deteriorate at an exponential rate. this is a human biological fact.

[Calilloyd]

well, it is fact. and the deterioration is VERY small at the beginning... like from 21 to 24, the deterioration would be so small that it wouldn't be noticeable at all unless scientifically measured. but as you age, you deteriorate at an exponential rate. this is a human biological fact.

Of course, but not at 21. If it's not noticeable or scientifically measured, how can it be a proven fact?

[BoxerDood]

WTF...So are you actually saying that Marquez's power in the Mayweather fight was equivalent to his power at 126 or 130? Do you honestly believe that Jose Luis Castillo was just as strong at 140 or 147 as he was at 135? HELL no. It all depends on how you handle the weight. If you move up effectively, then yes you can retain power. However many fighters handle weight differently. It depends on your body. Remember that power doesn't only come from heavy hands. It comes from many different parts of your body, and if those are consumed by dead weight, you can lose a significant amount of power. Its just like how weight drained opponents have no power. Their bodies are not functioning at 100%, therefore they lose power (example: De La Hoya in the Forbes fight). It works the same way with more weight. Different bodies are meant for different weight classes. Another good example is Diaz in the second Malignaggi fight. He was never a big puncher to begin with, but his power was nowhere near the way it usually is, and you can tell that he wasn't in his best shape because he looked like a smaller version of Arreola in that fight.

Floyd's skill is the only reason he has been able to survive at these higher weight classes. And if you can honestly say that Floyd's punching power is the same as it was at 130 then you really need to look again...

[infamous larryx]

makes sense.....

[-Swizzy-]

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Of course, but not at 21. If it's not noticeable or scientifically measured, how can it be a proven fact?

it CAN be scientifically measured.

and it isn't noticeable to the naked eye. if a fighter's punching force goes from 900 lbs to 870 lbs, you will not notice the difference just by looking at it. But that is what happens.

and once again, yes, human males start declining overall physically from the age of 21. and that isn't too hard to believe. if you follow sports, just look at all the athletes in every sport. they mature mentally but its pretty clear that they aren't the same in their late 20's as they were in their early 20's.

[Calilloyd]

it CAN be scientifically measured.

and it isn't noticeable to the naked eye. if a fighter's punching force goes from 900 lbs to 870 lbs, you will not notice the difference just by looking at it. But that is what happens.

and once again, yes, human males start declining overall physically from the age of 21. and that isn't too hard to believe. if you follow sports, just look at all the athletes in every sport. they mature mentally but its pretty clear that they aren't the same in their late 20's as they were in their early 20's.

Some are and some are not. It depends on the individual. Michael Jordan...can you really say he was diminished physically in his late 20's? He won an MVP at 35. Or Shaquille O'neal in his late 20's? I would be more inclined to believe that an athlete starts declining in the late 20's or early 30's. And that's only with some individuals because everybody is different. But 21 is just too hard for me to believe.